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Bushlore and Outdoor Skills / Re: Turkey
« Last post by Unknown on Yesterday at 09:25:34 PM »
Thanks JG. Lure in to easy visible. Maybe a good idea. I'm trying to maximize the environment where we all feed one another. Wanna buy a dried tick necklace?
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Bushlore and Outdoor Skills / Re: Turkey
« Last post by JeffG on Yesterday at 08:36:42 PM »
For me, I would get her coming in to scattered grain. Somewhere plowed or cut short. (maybe even mow it short....).When the polts are big enough they will follow her, and you can count them, or use a trail camera.  8)
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General Discussion / Re: Sorry. Can't find the super secret place
« Last post by Unknown on Yesterday at 08:19:44 PM »
Pete.
Knowing the difference; is a Big Thing. Not everyone knows everything. When, Who, why to Trust is expedient. It hurts a lot of people when wrong. Innocents, like the people you know, suffer. But, nevertheless(if I may say so) must go the distance. Some, going full speed. All alone in the time of need
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General Discussion / Re: Sorry. Can't find the super secret place
« Last post by Pete Bog on Yesterday at 07:29:28 PM »
Oath of Enlistment

 I,    , do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;  and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.  So help me God.

I remember that, or something very close to it. I also remember that eight years later, when I was discharged, the oath was never rescinded. I know I never rescinded it. The part to pay attention to is "according to regulations and the UCMJ". An illegal order is illegal, no matter how much brass they're toatin'.

Had a former LEO friend of mine that went to work for a private security firm. He was excited because he didn't have to mess with those constitutional rights crap while arresting someone.  (according to him)

Since he was former military, I wondered when he rescinded his oath.

As I said, 'former' LEO friend.
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Bushlore and Outdoor Skills / Re: Turkey
« Last post by Pete Bog on Yesterday at 07:13:13 PM »
How do you find a Wild Turkey nest?

I keep seeing this lady turkey. She sees me too. She runs away and flies away. My goal is not to be too invasive and interrupt the family goings on. Still or may I say, nevertheless, I have a burning desire to discover her secrets, the nest, count her baby gobblers, and begin to calculate the number of dinners I might serve.

But hey, it is muggy hot, each nearby deer drops at least 10,000 blood thirsty ticks. Since having endured one tick-bourne disease last year;  I just cannot afford the down-time again.

What are the best, time-tested methods to spy upon lady turkey?

Unknown,
   Never tried it myself, just don't have the interest. But you did make me curious, so here is what I found. www.allaboutbirds.o rg/guide/wild_turkey/lifehistory
   It kind of sounds like still hunting methods would best be employed. A few quiet steps and then a period of observation of the surroundings.
a good application of Permethrin and tucking the trouser legs into the socks would seem to be in order for the ticks.

   I would think you were getting a little late in the season to catch anything in the nest, but quiet time in the woods in always good.

Best of luck, let us know how it pans out.

As I was typing I see wsdstan also posted so: yeah - what he said. He certainly has more experience than I do.
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Bushlore and Outdoor Skills / Re: Turkey
« Last post by wsdstan on Yesterday at 07:06:54 PM »
Most of the time it is just pure chance.  If you walk about through the area you see the hen in you may eventually get her up off the nest.  Then mark the spot.  Be careful though as if you pressure them a little they will leave it.  I have two nesting right now and see them a couple of times a week when I go to get the mail or just arriving back at home and coming up the long driveway.  I have not looked for their nest but have a rough idea where they are (within a hundred feet or so) along a ditch. 

The hens incubate eggs for about 28 days and when all are hatched they leave with the poults.  I have seen several groups around here the last month or so.  We have had an unusually wet year and there may be a pretty high nest loss from the weather this year.
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General Discussion / Re: Sorry. Can't find the super secret place
« Last post by Unknown on Yesterday at 07:04:14 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean by Embracing. I will agree there are folk who immigrate to the US that don't make too many waves-as in cause confrontation, controversy or do violent crime. Minority status and generous policy could make for a whole lot of -go along to get along. As well the main lesson for proper assimilation  from the top - don't poop where you eat. By Top, I am referring to the Patriarch, matriarch- whoever acts as sponsor for family groups to immigrate.

I'm not a Lawyer; no, I'm not bragging by saying so, but I do know enough to say that exploiting the system for some individuals and groups is extremely advantageous and lucrative. Even a low IQ population can milk the teet and live far better in American squalor than staying home.

Why? All I can come up with such goings-on allows the Republican to send the signal> Not Racist

I don't use a dictionary, nor a thesaurus. I do rely on spellcheck and tend toward a dramatic flourish with punctuation. English is my only language so I know the different words :shrug: nevertheless I can still struggle for a definition of: Hate. What about you?

I hate this heat, cold, restaurant, traffic- it really is a meaningless word. There are lots of those being bandied about these days.

No promise for a quality post yet again lads. Typed as fast as my thumbs can go, with fontto small for me to read.  :-*

  Well said Unk,  up to your usual, clear as mud.


I will keep on: AtIt; as is said. What are you looking for? A Guru to spell it out letter for letter, word for word- One to explain the meaning in each inflection? A leader, a guide, or just someone else to agree with- that ain't me bro. Maybe it's just that: you are a storyteller where details are important to the tale and I am a doer where detail is lost to the result - ever think of that?
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Bushlore and Outdoor Skills / Turkey
« Last post by Unknown on Yesterday at 06:42:08 PM »
How do you find a Wild Turkey nest?

I keep seeing this lady turkey. She sees me too. She runs away and flies away. My goal is not to be too invasive and interrupt the family goings on. Still or may I say, nevertheless, I have a burning desire to discover her secrets, the nest, count her baby gobblers, and begin to calculate the number of dinners I might serve.

But hey, it is muggy hot, each nearby deer drops at least 10,000 blood thirsty ticks. Since having endured one tick-bourne disease last year;  I just cannot afford the down-time again.

What are the best, time-tested methods to spy upon lady turkey?
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General Discussion / Re: Sorry. Can't find the super secret place
« Last post by Unknown on Yesterday at 06:28:20 PM »
Punty, I really think some form of State is enviable. A-C(?). What is Capital? 5-6000 years ago it was the knowledge and ability to domesticate a horse, the engineering ability and knowledge of materials to build a wheel, a bit of smelting perhaps... the NAP is out-dated as soon as somebody gains an over-arching advantage over every-other-body.

It is genetic, eugenic, technologic... somebody is going to come out on top.

Gents, What we see happening today is exactly how democracy goes. I don't much care how you want to correct me with terms like "limited" or " representative"  or Constitutional... it is exactly what one should expect. The top tier of society... the wealthy, elite, powerful (whatever you want to call them

Colluding with, enticing, bribing, propagandizing - whatever you want to call it - with the Bottom Tier (what do we call them?) the poor(?) the disenfranchised

Against the "Middle" which is, conversely, the only thing to call it. Exactly what we believe may shift a bit. Nevertheless the Bulk of any bell-curve is going to be in the middle
   The split, might be down the middle. Split it up the middle. In which scenario do we, most of the middle win?
       Probably in some low tech agrarian society where common sense rules the day- I'm askin'
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I'm thinking back to when hayshaker(sorry to name you again bro) asked about socialist European countries: how are they doing? 5,10,15, do we have to say 20 years ago they were doing pretty damn good. Being relatively open societies they ended up being wide open to a lot of not so good Stuff. I imagine they were left vulnerable after devastating world wars. The strongest, bravest men lost- not as many- but many of the best in the US gone too. Not to mention all the strong willed, defiant, dissident thinking wiped out by commies here and there.
   All that will take awhile to recover from.
    The founding stock of America was European- mostly anglo/ germanic - what happened to them? Too individualistic, too much empathy, sympathy - for the underdog, the other, the bottom? England gave up the world to win ww2, the US made the world safe post WW2- for communism :shrug:

From my friend Moe, I have learned one thing. That is not to apologize. I used to feel apologetic- not so much anymore. Im an American Euro-mutt. My Irish is Scandinavian, my Scottish is anglo and my Anglo is germantic I can't even get a suntan darker than a paint color called pecan latte at Sherwin-Williams.

It is a sad time after loosing the wars. The victory was claimed by the State. As I explained above the Democratic State redistributes its Power which doesn't preclude it from setting up future deals.... you guys ain't listening anymore Bonnie chance mon libertines
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General Discussion / Re: Sorry. Can't find the super secret place
« Last post by madmax on Yesterday at 12:22:40 PM »
Oath of Enlistment

 I,    , do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;  and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.  So help me God.



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