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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by boomer on February 08, 2023, 04:09:59 PM »
Moe, It is because I care about our nation that I deal in fact rather than partisanship.
The description of the shooting of Ashley Babett, an AF veteran, which I watched multiple times is not close to what you represented it to be. i also watched the Insurrection in real time and subsequent videos. Please do not try to instruct me about what I watched in real time. As a trained observer I am well aware of what I saw and gaslighting attempts will not change historical fact.

Reasonable people may arrive at different conclusions when considering facts. Fact however, are not mutable. Insurrection has a distinct, identifiable, consistent definition.

i know a bit about DC. I have been to the White House on several occasions. Even went bowling there ( entry through WH and then passage to EOB) I have been to the Capitol as well. And the Wall and all the rest.

i am hardly naive about politics even though I am neither elected official, staff nor lobbyist.

There are only two basic rules in politics :
1. Never trust anyone who wants the job
2. The honest politician is one who stays bought.

if you want your information filtered through partisan sources, that's up to you

i am not that naive
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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by Moe M. on February 08, 2023, 07:44:27 AM »
Well, I agree with you Moe.

After a post commemorating Jan 6 was summarily censored without explanation it seems Moderation has taken a turn in a different direction.

There are things that happen in our nation that, for better or worse whether past or present, are important for every Citizen. The Jan 6 Insurrection as part of a failed coup attempt certainly meets any standard in that area for a number of reasons.  Some may support it still, some may not and never have but as a historical moment it is of great importance.

None can change the past. Attempting to control the narrative about our history is not about that though. It as about controlling the future, as Orwell noted.

Regardless of opinions about the political outcomes of the last presidential election it was not "stolen" unless a plurality of the popular vote and Electoral College ballots mean "stealing". The events of Jan 6 did happen. Citizens could watch them in real time. i did along with man many others

Our nation is still divided in important ways. The events of Jan 6 changed us. Just as 9/11 did. There are some among our Citizens who think violence or another civil war are a solution. Certainly some among our self identified elites do. As one who has seen war up close and personal I can assure them they have no idea what they're talking about.

Granted some things are hard to consider openly in discussion. There are topics on which  Citizens may not find agreement. That's  the way things  go and why speech is specifically protected. It is to maintain the differences between persuasion and commanding.

On a privately held site owner imposed restrictions apply. In the case here censoring unpopular or difficult topics will merely reduce all ready declining input to recycling prior comments and recipes by former participants who have moved on both figuratively and literally.

 Thanks Boomer, You know, I think you are a good person basically, and that you genuinely care about this country, but I also think you are overly naive when it comes to some of our elected officials and the lies that they have been feeding the public and it is reflected quite plainly in your twisted understanding of the cause of the Jan. 6th capital debacle, enough evidence exist that the breeching of the capital on Jan. 6th was not an insurrection at all, nor was it caused by president Trump.
 The claim that it was in fact an orchestrated plan put in place and conducted by agents of government with the help of the capital police who while on video tape threw open the capital doors and invited the crowd to enter, and in fact the aggressors in that situation were not the public but the capital police themselves who over reacted and most likely were not in on the plot is pretty convincing considering the video documentation, the claim that the crowd injured and killed capital police, while the video documentation shows one capital officer died, his death was caused by a heart attack, the only other death that I'm aware is of an unarmed female veteran shot by a federal policeman simply for entering a room, which was uncalled for and covered up. 
 It boggles my mind trying to make sense of just how brainwashed those who support the actions and policies of the rabid radical left in this country (as well as the outside actors that manipulate them), It's like being in a really bad dream that you can't wake up from.

 I truly believe that William F. Buckley had it right when he said that "Liberalism is a mental disorder", especially in these times that we are going through now, it's the only explanation that makes any sense at all.

 I will pray for you Boomer, that you be delivered from the dark side into the light.   
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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by boomer on February 07, 2023, 08:00:20 AM »
Well, I agree with you Moe.

After a post commemorating Jan 6 was summarily censored without explanation it seems Moderation has taken a turn in a different direction.

There are things that happen in our nation that, for better or worse whether past or present, are important for every Citizen. The Jan 6 Insurrection as part of a failed coup attempt certainly meets any standard in that area for a number of reasons.  Some may support it still, some may not and never have but as a historical moment it is of great importance.

None can change the past. Attempting to control the narrative about our history is not about that though. It as about controlling the future, as Orwell noted.

Regardless of opinions about the political outcomes of the last presidential election it was not "stolen" unless a plurality of the popular vote and Electoral College ballots mean "stealing". The events of Jan 6 did happen. Citizens could watch them in real time. i did along with man many others

Our nation is still divided in important ways. The events of Jan 6 changed us. Just as 9/11 did. There are some among our Citizens who think violence or another civil war are a solution. Certainly some among our self identified elites do. As one who has seen war up close and personal I can assure them they have no idea what they're talking about.

Granted some things are hard to consider openly in discussion. There are topics on which  Citizens may not find agreement. That's  the way things  go and why speech is specifically protected. It is to maintain the differences between persuasion and commanding.

On a privately held site owner imposed restrictions apply. In the case here censoring unpopular or difficult topics will merely reduce all ready declining input to recycling prior comments and recipes by former participants who have moved on both figuratively and literally.





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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by Moe M. on February 06, 2023, 05:01:09 PM »
 Has to be a mistake, I haven't seen any actual moderation needed here in quite a while much less heavy handed moderation, nor have I read any posts on this forum that needed intervention from a moderator in a long time, even those exchanges between myself and Boomer that is just good natured sparing.    :shrug:
 
 Speaking for myself, I think Crash is doing a fine job at being our conduct guide.   :thumbsup:
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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by crashdive123 on February 06, 2023, 02:18:37 PM »
So will trolling and people looking to start a fight.
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General Discussion / Re: HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by boomer on February 06, 2023, 08:17:33 AM »
Censorship will do that
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General Discussion / HELLO......hello......hello.....hello (echos)
« Last post by Moe M. on February 06, 2023, 06:38:42 AM »

  Damned, but it's getting lonely around here.     :shrug:
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General Discussion / Imbolc and a Ground Hog
« Last post by boomer on February 02, 2023, 05:40:58 PM »
Today is the midpoint between the winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox celebrated by ancient Celts as Imbolc.  Marking an important point in the year for agrarian societies

Today is also Ground Hog Day celebrated with a film starring Bill Murray and Andie Mac Dowell. Also probably distantly related to Imbolc.

A handy excuse to party. If one id necessary
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General Discussion / Re: Knock, Knock, anybody home/how are you dealing with inflation ?
« Last post by Moe M. on February 01, 2023, 07:17:39 PM »
Things are what they are, and won?t improve until the current communists running things are out of power

I hope we can hold out that long.   :shrug:
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General Discussion / February Observations
« Last post by boomer on February 01, 2023, 04:34:46 PM »
February is Black History Month also Heart Health month. Valentines Day of course but that's informal even though any celebration of Eros seems worthwhile.

Hoping for Spring soon
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