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pup split nail?
« on: January 29, 2017, 03:28:11 PM »
We hiked about an hour Saturday morning. Julia came in the house limping. I didn't notice any limp in the woods. No idea how she did this. I've never seen this with any of my dogs.

Any ideas on whether it will heal without a vets assistance?

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Re: pup split nail?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 03:43:38 PM »
Peroxide that bad boy often. Probably be ok. I'd give it 48 hours unless it get worse. My big Doberman ripprd a nail slam off and it heal/grew back with out an issue. I did work to keep it very clean..

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 03:47:29 PM »
Owww.  Gotta hurt.  I agree to clean and disinfect for a day or two.  If you don't see improvement... vet.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 04:19:13 PM »
I have done the peroxide. I have a vet wrap that sticks to itself like an ace bandage. I'm thinking a plastic bag and a wrap. Maybe a little gauze on the pad to keep that toe elevated so she doesn't walk on it.

My wife just mentioned we have blue coat. I'll spray that o there in another day. It seals them up pretty good. Need to make sure there's no infection first. It's not warm to the touch and there's no puss.

I'm going to give her a little Honey. it'll help with infection.
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Re: pup split nail?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 04:30:09 PM »
I bet she'll be just fine. Cranky... but fine.

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2017, 05:12:35 PM »
Happened to Duke the Choc. lab, last year. He's 9 or 10. I took off the loose part of the nail, since his had split & tore, then put neosporin on it, then gauze & duct tape for a day, then took off the gauze and I wiped it off & used Nu-skin Sp?( like a Superglue for people cuts) on it & let dry, then kept an eye on it. He did try to mess with it, but stopped when I told him to cut it out. After a day or so, I repeated the coating. It partly fell off & grew out eventually & has not happened since. It was a surprise to me when it happened as I have had dogs all my life but never had this happen.


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Re: pup split nail?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 05:44:47 PM »
Clean well and careful super glue  kinda what I was thinking.

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 09:30:37 PM »
That can happen on rough terrain from rocks, or even on flat concrete when the toenails are too long.
My go-to treatment for animal wounds is veterinarian strength iodine.  Not the watered down stuff for people. Most farm supply places carry it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2017, 01:00:29 AM »
That's a good idea. I need to have her tote a pack with first aid supplies now. She runs full bore the whole time she's out there. I'm actually surprised she hasn't skewered herself yet.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 12:30:41 PM »
That's a good idea. I need to have her tote a pack with first aid supplies now. She runs full bore the whole time she's out there. I'm actually surprised she hasn't skewered herself yet.
My patrol dog tore a dewclaw clean off climbing a ladder after a bad guy. I poured the Industrial Strength iodine over the wound, wrapped it in gauze over night, and never looked back. Healed up just fine.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 08:23:29 PM »
xj you mentioned a plastic bag for cover? don't do it
you want the wound to breathe.

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2017, 03:14:57 AM »
Just for outside duties my friend., to keep it clean. It's healing nicely but she's going to limp for some time I think.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2017, 03:40:36 AM »
My Banjo is more accepting of foot probing than many cannines. A vet always approaches the examination with caution - that's how I know most dogs don't like it, we have talked about it.

So you already have a sensitive area. Just imagine a sliver jammed under your nail, or other damage there yeow! , ever have one of those?
Hard to imagine any wrapping without some way to prevent the animal from tearing it off, like one of those cone collars- doubling the frustration. What breed is Julia?

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 04:14:05 AM »
Definitely some peroxide and antibiotic ointment. If you have any tegaderm that would help as well. Liquid bandage can work wonders also. I've had a couple of my dogs do that to their nails and using the treatment described above they healed up nicely.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2017, 04:32:30 AM »
I am with ya Pete. That liquid bandage /Nu skin stuff is pretty good! Your description sounded a lot like mine on what I did. Pete, when you used this method on one of your dogs, where did ya get the info for the method?  The way I found out about this method was, I talked to a vet & a couple of dog groomers to get the info I used before I did anything. I did use, but forgot to mention some cornstarch as a "styptic" and some pressure for a while to stop the bleeding, although it wasn't too bad at the time. Then made some phone calls to find out more on what was the best to do. All were helpful & the vet told me that if it was still a problem I could always bring Duke in. But, it worked for me ( & Duke) anyway.
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Just an aside, about checking your dog for things, I started with Duke & all my dogs by laying on them to show dominance & then checking all parts of their bodies back when they were puppies. Then continued to do that off & on for the rest of their lives. They get used to it pretty quick & it makes it easier to check on problems they may come across & they learn to trust that you are not going to hurt them, even if they are hurting already. A good example is many a time I have had dogs get something like a stick or a chunk of something caught up in their palate & they are running around gagging & pawing at their face trying to get relief. But once I approach & get ahold of them and talk to them they calm down & let me remove the problem object. It also works when they get into something that wraps them up or when they get cut on barb wire, to get them to calm down & let ya work on them to fix things... Just something to think about for those who didn't know, anyway... Worked for me over the years...




BTW, If xj35s decides to use a different method, or whatever method... then I would like to hear updates on what is done & how it works out.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2017, 10:38:50 AM »
I was told the nu skin burns, like super glue. I haven't put anything on her foot. We got 4 inches of snow so there is less chance of infection from dirt/mud. It has a good scab through that crack. It seems the nail is holding together okay. It's tender and she limps but she will run full bore to potty,and back up the steps. You can't slow this dog down. For the record, she runs at 30 mph along side my motorcycle or truck the full width of my property.

Julia is a Rhodesian Ridgeback, an African Lion hunting breed. How fast does a lion run?

 She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.
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Re: pup split nail?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2017, 11:04:09 AM »
She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.

I dated a girl like that once.......didn't work out. :shrug:
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2017, 02:22:12 PM »
Lol@wolfy.

I think a lion can run 29 ;D. I love those RRidgebacks.

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2017, 04:38:47 PM »
She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.

I dated a girl like that once.......didn't work out. :shrug:

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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2017, 09:58:55 PM »
Wound like that I use Sulfa powder...something like this stuff.......I got a plastic bottle of it ...like a mustard bottle...from my vet....
That wound I would squeeze some on the wound and use that self stick wrap tape(?) to get through the day..
Like this stuff...
http://www.shopwoundcare.com/p-23-3m-coban-self-adherent-wrap.html

Carry it in my doggie FAK for hunting dogs.

Cat tails, weeds, corn stalk leaves, barbed wire fences tears up, around eyes, feet, legs chest.....and nails take a beating.

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Have had the whole nail ripped off.....a few times.....
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2017, 10:58:05 PM »
She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.

I dated a girl like that once.......didn't work out. :shrug:

Wolfy you were looking for love in all the wrong places.   :-*

Where did it go wrong?  Was it the teeth, or the toes?
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2017, 11:41:59 PM »
She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.

I dated a girl like that once.......didn't work out. :shrug:

Wolfy you were looking for love in all the wrong places.   :-*

Where did it go wrong?  Was it the teeth, or the toes?

Nah, she was easy to look at, too, but hard-mouthed and wouldn't stop barking!  :'(
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2017, 03:41:52 PM »
She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.

I dated a girl like that once.......didn't work out. :shrug:

Wolfy you were looking for love in all the wrong places.   :-*

Where did it go wrong?  Was it the teeth, or the toes?

Nah, she was easy to look at, too, but hard-mouthed and wouldn't stop barking!  :'(
I had a girlfriend like that once, too. Couldn't get her to take a bit....
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 05:32:03 PM »
If it were my dog, I would clean the wound up with a non-greasy antiseptic like bactine or something with a little lidocaine in it to help it hurt less, then wrap it with unwaxed dental floss to close the crack, then apply super glue over the floss to form a splint.

But it might require an preventative antibiotic from the vet.

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 06:04:57 PM »
I thought about that using cotton thread. I was afraid of sealing in any infection.

I noticed a smell and was afraid of gangrene setting in. It was swelling and forcing the crack to open further.

The vet cleaned up all the loose nail and the quick is exposed on the out side half of the nail. It's wrapped very well with a lot of gauze and then a plastic wrap. Also have a plastic glove with a gauze drawstring for holding it on.

$75 I thought was cheap. I was thinking they'd keep her overnight with antibiotics. Doc said no infection at all. Goes back Monday to check healing and whether more nail needs to come off. She got trimmed with just some lidocaine cream. They were very impressed with how good she was. Kept still for them and they trimmed all her nails too.

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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2017, 07:56:02 PM »
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Despite the tongue in cheek bestiality references, I do truly love this dog. Always by my side. Good as gold. She's 6 now. Maybe 6 more years to enjoy woods bumming but I'm going to make the most of it. She's getting a PFD this year so she can go canoeing with me.
Glad you got her checked out. What breed is she, again? I fergit, if I ever knew.
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2017, 08:10:32 PM »
I thought about that using cotton thread. I was afraid of sealing in any infection.

I noticed a smell and was afraid of gangrene setting in. It was swelling and forcing the crack to open further.

The vet cleaned up all the loose nail and the quick is exposed on the out side half of the nail. It's wrapped very well with a lot of gauze and then a plastic wrap. Also have a plastic glove with a gauze drawstring for holding it on.

$75 I thought was cheap. I was thinking they'd keep her overnight with antibiotics. Doc said no infection at all. Goes back Monday to check healing and whether more nail needs to come off. She got trimmed with just some lidocaine cream. They were very impressed with how good she was. Kept still for them and they trimmed all her nails too.

Despite the tongue in cheek bestiality references, I do truly love this dog. Always by my side. Good as gold. She's 6 now. Maybe 6 more years to enjoy woods bumming but I'm going to make the most of it. She's getting a PFD this year so she can go canoeing with me.

Glad to hear that there wasn't any infection. :thumbsup:

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2017, 08:20:12 PM »
I was told the nu skin burns, like super glue. I haven't put anything on her foot. We got 4 inches of snow so there is less chance of infection from dirt/mud. It has a good scab through that crack. It seems the nail is holding together okay. It's tender and she limps but she will run full bore to potty,and back up the steps. You can't slow this dog down. For the record, she runs at 30 mph along side my motorcycle or truck the full width of my property.

Julia is a Rhodesian Ridgeback, an African Lion hunting breed. How fast does a lion run?

 She is very good about me handling her. I can inspect her teeth and her feet. I can look between her toes. I can clean her ears. She's a real sweetheart.
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2017, 08:26:22 PM »

Julia is a Rhodesian Ridgeback, an African Lion hunting breed. How fast does a lion run?

Ah, yeah. Pardon my senior moment.
I visited some folks on Vancouver Is. a number of years ago who had a Lion Hound.  He would kick back in front of their wood stove, and let their 2 year old grandson use him as a trampoline.  Nothing phased that dog...until a stranger came to visit.  They couldn't get out of their car without permission. Hahaha.
I was told he was 18 years old at the time.
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2017, 03:38:17 AM »
That is really good news. Honestly she doesn't show her age any more than when we first got her. Very energetic. Vet scale say's 73 pounds though. should be around 55. I guess we both need to get out back more!
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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2017, 05:43:30 PM »
Glad the pup is healing. Mn, oddly enough the information came from a close friend of mine who has hunting dogs but is also a paramedic. One thing that can help with the burn of the liquid bandage is ironically enough is orajel. It numbs it a bit. For a tight initial wrap you can use coban to keep it snug and it resists water quite well
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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2017, 05:58:29 PM »
glad to hear things are working out ok.
btw, good thing it's winter with the snow
less chance for infection.

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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2017, 10:36:01 PM »
If it's not too much trouble, how about a pic of the healing process? Going to the vet Thursday. Probably going to be ashamed when I see in accurate digital readout of just how chubby the dingo has become.

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« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2017, 07:30:41 AM »
glad to hear things are working out ok.
btw, good thing it's winter with the snow
less chance for infection.

Yes! That's the main reason I put off taking her to the vet, But then it started to open more and had a smell.

I will get a new picture Monday when the bandage comes off. We had a Dingo on the first farm I worked on. She went out with us two days in a row to bring the cows in the barn for morning feeding. She knew to do that on her own after that. If the barn door opened she was on her way to get behind them. Very good dog all around.
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2017, 10:25:39 AM »
The vets bandage lasted until late Saturday afternoon. Got home from my sisters and the bandage was everywhere. I re bandaged it without thinking of a new picture. So today is vet day and I untied my bandage to check it before going to the vets this afternoon.

I think it my need a little more trimming. I'll let him decide. Still no infection.

I realize my first aid supplies are severely under stocked. I loaded up at walmart on gauze, wrap, and tape.

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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 01:27:58 PM »
Looks better, at least not so fresh and wet. Still looks mighty tender. Get well soon lil ridgeback