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TOKT News
« on: February 17, 2012, 06:30:26 PM »
well I figured I should start a "news" thread, for lack of a better term. This is just going to be an informal area where I make updates as to what's going on in and out of the shop.

I'm working on a new design for a 4" blade. I'm calling it the "Intrepid".

This one is going to have flat, removable scales. Below is a preliminary concept sketch I made. The actual knife will differ somewhat. I'm shooting for a tang extension in the back this time as well. These knives are all going to have micarta or G10 scales on them.



I'll keep updating this thread as time allows.
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 10:23:20 PM »
Nice looking concept right there! :)
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 10:31:55 PM »
I like it PW.  Is there a reason for removable scales?  Just curious.
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 10:49:21 PM »
I like it PW.  Is there a reason for removable scales?  Just curious.

None in particular. I just wanted to try something different. :)

Though Red and I have been tossing some ideas around for a hollow tang knife like the now discontinued HEST.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 10:59:08 PM »
Cool.  You need to make something like the old Chris Reeve one-piece knives.  'Cept a bushcrafty style blade maybe.  You are "Turning" Outdoors after all.  LOL.
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 11:27:52 PM »
im first!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 09:55:01 AM »
im first!

I wanted to be 1st.  But I will have to settle for #2.............................   ::)

PW:  that knife looks great.  Makes sure I am on the list, please.   ;)
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 09:57:49 AM »
Cool.  You need to make something like the old Chris Reeve one-piece knives.  'Cept a bushcrafty style blade maybe.  You are "Turning" Outdoors after all.  LOL.

I'd love to, but that would require a HUGE lathe. Mine's only a 9X18 with a 3/4" spindle bore.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 06:41:23 PM »
Well here's some embarrassing news... ::)

I cut myself a little while ago. I was opening a frozen pizza with my pocket knife, and I slipped and sliced about a 3/8" flap of skin up on my left index finger. It didn't bleed much, but it's definitely going to mean I will have to put off shop work for another few days. I don't want to get dirt in it.

I immediately poured a few ounces of rubbing alcohol on it (stings!) and got some gauze and tape on it. After a half hour or so I switched to a band-aid. It looks like at least some portion of the flap will heal back on, but the rest is probably going to dry out and curl back away from my finger and just be a general pain in the ass.

Anyhow, be careful out there! Don't be careless and ALWAYS look to see that none of your body parts are in the path of the blade if it slips.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 06:57:40 PM »
pics or it didnt happen ???
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 06:58:57 PM »
pics or it didnt happen ???

Lol, isn't that a peeve! :D


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Re: TOKT News **Warning, graphic injury pic**
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 07:05:57 PM »
Ok, I'll post a link to the image, rather than the actual pic so folks who don't want to see it don't have to.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg

The "hinge" is at the upper left of the flap.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2012, 07:10:21 PM »
Cutting yourself wasn't the embarassing thing.

The part about the frozen pizza was.  ;) 



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Re: TOKT News **Warning, graphic injury pic**
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 07:13:35 PM »
Ok, I'll post a link to the image, rather than the actual pic so folks who don't want to see it don't have to.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg

The "hinge" is at the upper left of the flap.

ah c'mon man!! thats a scratch! ive gone into the shop with FAR worse :P
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 07:15:07 PM »
Lol, it's worse than that. My wife bought a bunch of nutrisystem food a couple of months ago, and I've made it my mission to eat it all up so it doesn't go bad. :D

So this isn't just a frozen pizza, it's a diet frozen pizza.   ???

And red... Ssssshhhh!

This can get me out of all kinds of honey-do's!

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2012, 07:20:11 PM »
Lol, it's worse than that. My wife bought a bunch of nutrisystem food a couple of months ago, and I've made it my mission to eat it all up so it doesn't go bad. :D

So this isn't just a frozen pizza, it's a diet frozen pizza.   ???

And red... Ssssshhhh!

This can get me out of all kinds of honey-do's!


lol! at the cost of shop time though!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2012, 06:04:42 PM »
Well, looks like I'll be another few days before I'm ready to do any hand sanding. But I think I might get a little work done soon using gloves. I really want to try some new construction techniques in the shop. I'm still shopping routers out but once I decide on one I will get a router table built and then it's inlay time!

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2012, 06:27:42 PM »
cant wait man!! keep us posted :D and dont use gloves on the grinder.... bad things can happen ;)
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 01:41:48 PM »
Looks like it's going to be a great design.  Hope your finger heals soon and you can get back to the shop!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2012, 02:12:05 PM »


Well, managed to get out to the shop today. I profiled the new "Intrepid" design. It still needs heat treat, then finishing and I've got to put the scales on.

I think the one greatest advantage to removable scales is ease of sharpening. You can take the scales off, and clamp the blade in a grinding jig and get a perfect edge every time. ;)

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2012, 04:40:06 PM »
Well, I have the above pictured knife tempering right now. What remains is to fit some handle scales and put a nice final polish on it, then I can remove the scales (this is awesome) and put the final edge on it. Because of the removable scales I can do all the other work to the knife without having to sharpen it first. Should be a lot of fun. I'm debating what handle material to use, but I think I'm going to go with a dark reddish brown linen micarta.
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2012, 09:43:23 AM »
PW:  That knife is going to be sweet!  When will the market be open on these beauties?
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2012, 10:04:56 AM »
Nice!
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Teaser Pic
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2012, 06:33:00 PM »



Just a little teaser of things to come...

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2012, 07:30:40 PM »
Ok, well that's 70 minutes I'll never get back.  :(

But as the saying goes, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. This kydex stuff is not as easy to use as some would have you believe. Last night I overheated it and messed up one piece. Tonight, I pressed a horrible wrinkle into it. Then I re heated it and flattened it and re-pressed it, but the second time around it didn't form well at all.

I'll try again tomorrow. I'm trying to get really good definition in the sheath. I've read up on the tips and tricks, etc. I think I'm just going to have to waste a bunch of this stuff in order to learn. That sucks, but I guess it can't be helped.

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2012, 10:24:13 PM »
Well, I tried again anyway.

 This time I got a satisfactory mold, so I went ahead and drilled and riveted the sheath. Tomorrow I'll cut off the excess and burnish the edges. The retention is good, but not too tight, and can be made almost unreleasable by adding a chicago screw in the open hole. The rivets are easier to use than I anticipated.





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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2012, 10:46:58 PM »
Lookin' good, PW.  I like the adjustable tensioner.  I've never seen that before.
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2012, 11:01:14 PM »
Lookin' good, PW.  I like the adjustable tensioner.  I've never seen that before.

Thanks, I wish I could claim it as my own.  I have a couple of kydex holsters that have that feature and I figured it was only natural to include it on a sheath. :)

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2012, 11:26:11 PM »
looks good so far :D looking forward to seeing it all done!
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« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 06:38:10 AM »
Nice stuff!  You always make it look easy!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #30 on: February 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM »
Ok, got an ambidextrous, horizontal or vertical carry, kydex/leather hybrid sheath made. This is my first kydex sheath. The molding is the hard part. The rest of it is relatively easy.







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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2012, 02:55:20 PM »
That's really nice!!   You've been a busy camper!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2012, 03:14:39 PM »
Thanks! Not as busy as I'd like, but better than sitting around not building anything. :)

This one was the most fun I've had making a knife in a while because it was a new design and I got to try some new construction techniques.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2012, 12:42:00 AM »
Just ordered some 22" ball bearing drawer slides. ;)

I plan to build a poor man's surface grinder accessory. The idea is to use the glides to make a sliding platform that I can mount under my grinder's contact wheel. Then I can attach a hinge at the back of the base, and a long threaded rod at the front for elevation adjustment. I'll use a combination of rare earth magnets and pins to hold the blade in place on the platform. Then it will be a simple matter of using the screw to elevate the blade until it just contacts the wheel and then sliding the platform in and out on the drawer slides. This should give me a great, even, flat finish on the blades without spending thousands on a surface grinder.

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2012, 11:34:28 AM »
Sounds like a plan.  Can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2012, 04:30:01 PM »
um... are you talking about for the profile (the flats) on your blades?
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2012, 04:57:50 PM »
um... are you talking about for the profile (the flats) on your blades?

Yes.

I've given it a lot of thought, and rather than buy a totally different set of belts for the 4X36 I think this will work well.

The finish I get on the flats using the X16 Norax belts is really great...



But holding the blade against the belt by hand takes so much concentration that it stresses me out, lol1 So instead, I'm going to build this sliding jig that will enable me to use my existing belt grinder to grind the flats without taking up much more room in my tiny shop. ;)

This video was the inspiration for the idea, though mine will be a lot less precise.


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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2012, 05:25:15 PM »
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2012, 05:34:09 PM »
looks sharp!
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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2012, 06:47:23 PM »
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?

Under $25 most likely. Just the drawer glides for $16, and then I have a bunch of wood and screws already. I also have a bunch of magnets I can use as well, I think I paid $12 for 10 magnets but I won't need to use that many.

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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2012, 07:07:33 PM »
Sounds like you've thought it out from a lot of angles and have a good plan for the adjustable feature, but still able to have it be cost effective.  So you're talking placing it under the large contact wheel, then adjusting it up to contact and use the guides to draw it across to clean the flats...raising as necessary to get them cleaned up.  Pretty slick man!

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2012, 07:18:38 PM »
Sounds like you've thought it out from a lot of angles and have a good plan for the adjustable feature, but still able to have it be cost effective.  So you're talking placing it under the large contact wheel, then adjusting it up to contact and use the guides to draw it across to clean the flats...raising as necessary to get them cleaned up.  Pretty slick man!

Yep, that's the plan.. ;)

After watching the video again, I might make it a little more complicated. But I think the drawer slides will do well enough for my purposes. I'm not trying to grind to precision micrometer measurements. I just want a relatively straight and even finish that doesn't take as much care and concentration as hand holding it.

I think I will get a cheap mild steel plate to use as a platform and once the whole thing is set up I can use the grinder attachment itself to face the platform square to the wheel.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2012, 03:50:24 PM »
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?

Under $25 most likely. Just the drawer glides for $16, and then I have a bunch of wood and screws already. I also have a bunch of magnets I can use as well, I think I paid $12 for 10 magnets but I won't need to use that many.

lol, no worries :) i always forget you like to tinker and build things :)
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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2012, 08:38:34 PM »
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2012, 08:23:27 AM »
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)

So we have that in common, as I also get a great deal of satisfaction from you making things for myself.  :D
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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2012, 10:36:28 AM »
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)

So we have that in common, as I also get a great deal of satisfaction from you making things for myself.  :D

Heh, that made me grin. :D

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« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2012, 02:31:48 PM »
I'm trying to save my pennies and purchase more equipment, otherwise I'd like to enjoy the satisfaction of him making things for myself too!!!!

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« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2012, 11:02:16 PM »
:D

Thanks guys.

The drawer glides arrived today. They are bigger than I anticipated. But there is little to no discernible "play" in them so I think they will produce a relatively nice flat grind. I'll need to take a few hours to build the slider but I think it's going to work pretty good.

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Re: TOKT News
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2012, 03:50:11 PM »
Still haven't gotten around to making the poor man's surface grinder attachment. The drawer slides are nice though.

I did get some 3/16" thick green linen micarta and I'm hoping to make a new Intrepid knife only with flat scales using this new micarta, and a scandi grind. I'm considering using 1/8" steel as well.

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« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2012, 10:31:05 PM »
sounds like it would match my folder quite nicely :D looking forward to seeing it!
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