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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2017, 07:50:42 PM »
That is a great video Bob.  Really fabulous collection. 
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2017, 09:05:37 PM »
I like the way the handle came out. Overall I think it's a success. Nowadays you can usually go buy something off the shelf for a lot cheaper than you can make it, but that stuff just doesn't have the same character. This knife has a story behind it. :thumbsup:

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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2017, 05:36:49 AM »
I put a bevel on all the edges but it is hard to see them.  Most of the knives in the video had square, blocky scales which I do not find appealing.  I may enlarge the bevels.  Remember, this knife is not a bushcraft knife, it is based upon an early 18th century knife which was probably more ceremonial than functional.  The famous Confederate D-handled Bowies was routinely discarded by soldiers who found it to be a boat anchor.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2017, 10:14:40 AM »
In the Black Hills of South Dakota if there is an auction of western memorabilia there are often D handled Bowies.  If they are authentic (and it is hard to tell) then a lot of Deadwoods gold seekers must have carried them, on the trails in. 

I have never noticed a real old American or English Bowie though.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2017, 12:34:00 PM »
Stan, maybe a lot of Confederate soldiers had nothing to go home to and took off in search gold.  I dunno.  If they are authentic, they are probably worth more than the gold those fellows found.

I started in on the sheath for the Bowie and it is only slightly less leather than a western saddle.  It will be a pouch type with a welted seam.  Fairly heavy leather, probably 6-8 Oz. or better. I think I will drill the holes and use simulated rawhide in a wrap stitch.
I decided the handle was a bit thick and sanded off just bit, too.  It feels better.  I wanted to wear it to the History Saturday at WOB on the 17th but the theme is Children's Games in 1830 so maybe I won't bring it.  Unless they play Skin the Cat. 
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2017, 07:36:46 AM »
I thought I might like to try some of them, too, but a Google search for 'PITA pins' turns up nothing for me. :shrug: :P :lol:

This is what I got: http://www.armedforcesinsignia.com/?p=3274&c=103
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2017, 08:55:21 AM »
I thought I might like to try some of them, too, but a Google search for 'PITA pins' turns up nothing for me. :shrug: :P :lol:

This is what I got: http://www.armedforcesinsignia.com/?p=3274&c=103
I don't think those would have added anything to the attractiveness of my knife handle.....and never having been in the military, I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to display them.  ;D

BTW....that video that you found of that magnificent collection of Bowies was very interesting!  :thumbsup:  If you recall, I was trying to explain to you what I did to enhance the coffin-shape of my handles.  I didn't have much luck in doing so, but if you go back and review the video from about the 6:00-7:20 minute section, it might make what I was trying to convey a little easier to visualize.  Rather than making those 45 degree flat bevels in the video the same width from guard to pommel, I tapered mine from both ends with the widest or deepest section of the bevel in the center of handle on all four corners of its length, tapering to square at each end.  That leaves squared sections at the coffin-end and where my cross-guard meets the scales with no 90 degree corners where your hand wraps around the handle......that area would be an octagon in cross-section.  As I recall, I knocked off the sharp edges of the angular coffin pommel end with very slight, polished 45 degree bevels, also....to prevent chipping.  VERY comfortable and adds some 'pizazz,' too. ;D

What you ended up doing looks very nice, though!  :hail:      At this stage.....another thing you might consider to 'doll it up' some more and add a little more to the historical 'conversation-piece' aspect of your Bowie is to add one of those Spanish notches at the choil.....very easy to accomplish with needle files or a carbide burr in a rotary Dremel tool.  Since it doesn't have a guard, it would also be of a practical nature.....helping to catch your opponent's knife edge when parrying those slashing, gut-dumping thrusts in last-ditch, hand-to-hand combat and you don't have time to reload the new Lyman smokepole!  :duel:
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2017, 12:35:25 PM »
Wolfy, I will go watch the video again.  As for the Spanish notch, I have a chain saw file that might work.  And some diamond needle files, too.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2017, 01:38:37 PM »
I thought I might like to try some of them, too, but a Google search for 'PITA pins' turns up nothing for me. :shrug: :P :lol:

This is what I got: http://www.armedforcesinsignia.com/?p=3274&c=103
LOL! I know a few proud recipients.

That's a great video. I've seen it before but it was well worth another view.

I've got a Tahchee Bowie on the drawing board ... thought about ebony scales and some sort of pattern with the pins. Think I'll knock the dust off those drawings.

Again, nice job! Classy, classic Bowie.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2017, 02:01:20 PM »
Thanks all!  I am not too proud of the sheath and another effort is being considered.  This will do for now.


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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2017, 03:13:21 PM »
Nice job on this project.  You did real good.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2017, 05:24:10 PM »
I think you did great too.

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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2017, 12:39:15 PM »
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2017, 05:43:21 PM »
Well ---- this thread has inspired me to work on a Bowie.  Started one today.

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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2017, 06:56:33 PM »
Strangely, the knife laws in Texas forbid me to carry my Bowie in public.  Maybe I can wear it at the State Park when I work there.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2017, 03:58:06 AM »
Knife laws here are a bit more relaxed.  You can open carry any knife up to and including swords.

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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2017, 07:42:47 AM »
Surprises me about Texas law on knife carry.  Well, you can always send it up to me in South Dakota and I will wear it for you.   O:-)
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2017, 12:22:57 PM »
But switchblades and butterfly knives are legal..  Gravity knives are illegal but so hard to find, who cares?  And the Ranger at WOB said I can wear the Bowie when I am working at the park.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2018, 11:25:35 AM »
These are good knives, I have one of those but can't remember who claim it

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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2018, 06:59:50 PM »
This tread really got me thinking.
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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2018, 07:00:38 PM »
Thanks all!  I am not too proud of the sheath and another effort is being considered.  This will do for now.



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Re: Making a Bowie knife out of an 8" Green River Butcher Knife
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2018, 11:00:54 AM »
Great job! Big improvement in my eye over what the blade stated out as...
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