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There's many ways of lying a fire. A lot of people get really fancy about it, building up a teepee of sticks and a log cabin of sticks, but really that's just a waste of time and just fanciful. So, there's no real need for it. It's one of those things I guess, that's come along in later years with so-called bushcraft skills. They feel they need to make more effort to do something, when really no effort is needed

"fanciful', LMAO. I love this guys attitude.

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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 12:12:11 PM »
I have no sound, it looks to me like he made a teepee lay. or maybe a lean to lay, lol! No matter what it has to start with small stuff and build to bigger stuff unless you're using an accelerant.
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 12:27:22 PM »
I have no sound, it looks to me like he made a teepee lay. or maybe a lean to lay, lol! No matter what it has to start with small stuff and build to bigger stuff unless you're using an accelerant.

Did you mean you don't have sound on comp or whatever, or that you just couldn't hear this video?

I meant to say something about low sound, need to turn it up all the way in settings if you're as deaf as me.

Here's the full transcript.

 
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hello someone a while back asked me to
show how i layer fire not just lighting
it there's many ways of lying a fire a
lot of people get really fancy about it
building up a teepee of sticks and and a
log cabin of sticks but really that's
just a waste of time and just fanciful
it so there's no real need for it it's
one of those things I guess that's come
along in later years with so-called
bushcraft skills I feel they need to
make more effort to do something really
no effort is needed i'll show you how i
am i lay a fire today normally old i'll
dig out a bit of a fire pit sometimes
quite deep it helps contain the fire i
don't get a she's blowing around the
place and it's just something i've got
used to doing i can fill it in a frizen
cover up the fire and then you probably
would he know I've been there I always
use a rocks around because it not only
contains the fire but it puts the heat
reflects the heat back into my shelter
and when I'm camping in winter which I I
mostly do in winter rather than summer
it's winter now actually but no snow is
yet
then I need a fire to keep me warm I
only only travel with one blanket so I I
need the fire to keep me warm on really
cold nights and I need it within reach
so I laid my fire close to the close to
the shelter and I'll build myself a pile
of sticks where and firewood close by so
I don't have to get out of my bedroll
and I can just collect the sticks at
night and throw it on the fire and keep
it going usually when it dies down and
gets real cold I start to feel the cold
and that wakes me up so I can stoke the
fire okay let's get on with it all I'll
take some closer shots of where I put
the fire and then we'll I'll show you
how I actually like here you can
actually see the rocks around my
fireplace and that's where I'll be
laying the fire just inside there on the
other side of those rocks
just taking some bark off this stringy
bark tree here to use for kindling and
over there you can see I've got some
mountain gum bark on the other side and
two different sizes of sticks there and
then here I got some dry grass and I've
got a pile of the larger sticks behind
me what one side of me I've got to I'm
starting another pile of other sticks
which I will carry on and build up later
on and i always put some in the back of
your shelter and you got your oilcloth
up get a pile of kindling and and
whatever you need to restart a fire if
it dies down to coals and the night and
if it rains or snows then you're going
to be in trouble if you haven't gotten
it in handy so put it in the back of
your shoulder first up and it's there
then in the night if you were if you
have to restart the fire here's the
here's the stringy back and we just pull
it apart
rough it up a bit and make some kindling
for starting the fire take a knee down
there you can see I've got some I put
some logs down here some some larger
pieces of wood right here and what I'm
going to do with that take some get a
few bigger sticks we'll just lay on the
bottom don't have to do this but just
something that I do
and I get some get some twigs or in this
case I'm putting up some mountain gum x
mountain gum vanakkam any of the ribbon
bar trees this sort of stuff is really
good this is for Australia of course you
you've no doubt got other stuff overseas
in other countries that you can use
after I put that on there I'll put some
twigs on the reason I'm doing this of
course is that it gives me a gap
underneath here and it allows there to
get underneath this when it catches fire
there's no good if you if you like a
fire directly on the ground and then
start putting stuff on it there's a
chance that you're actually going to
smother it and put it out so you can
build this up is pretty much as much as
you're like right up front
some heavier stuff on it it's not going
to crush anything because it's up
against the log at the end and there's a
gap underneath or baton so it's no
problem okay that's the first part done
no we've actually got to make fire
you
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 01:33:35 PM »
There are all manner of ways to lay a fire......depending on intended use, prevailing conditions, ground moisture, wind, regionally available tinders, etc., but I didn't find this guy's setup & methods particularly great to emulate. ???    From his blowing of air away FROM the grass nest TO the spark & ember in the tinder box....and then the draft-robbing, solid 'roof' of bark pieces with no pathways for oxygen to carry the flame up through to the larger twig-kindling pieces.  No easy path for the flames to spread easily & efficiently to all areas of the fuel were provided.....nearly all of that precious initial heat-blast from the fine tinder was lost out the left side of the lay before igniting the bark.  In essence, he was retarding the fire by smothering it with fuel and not providing sufficient airways for fast & efficient combustion.  :-\

Anyway, he probably got his fire going OK and roasted his wienie without further incident........OR criticism from me!  ;D
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 02:05:50 PM »
Sometimes starting a fire is just a chore to get done.  Other times you might want to go through an elaborate lay just because it is fun.  I had sound but you don't miss anything if you can't hear it.
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 02:10:40 PM »
Looks like he got his fire going OK to me.  For those of you who don't know or don't remember, Keith H is a member here.
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 02:22:27 PM »
I'm pretty sure I have not seen the vids or infos that prompted Keith's comments about extra work.
 In general I don't think it is extra work to lay sticks one way or another or this way rather than that. I do think one should have enough fires built and burnt that whatever and however has become a more or less intuitive process reacting to the material at hand and its potential
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »
Looks like he got his fire going OK to me.  For those of you who don't know or don't remember, Keith H is a member here.

Many thanks imnukensc, your comment is much appreciated. Amazing how some people get their feathers ruffled when they see someone doing something different to the way they do it! Why is this a big deal? Why do people feel they have to put someone down? Does my video make them feel inferior? Belittled?
The mind boggles.
Time to move on I think, very disappointing.
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 04:03:30 PM »
Looks like he got his fire going OK to me.  For those of you who don't know or don't remember, Keith H is a member here.

Many thanks imnukensc, your comment is much appreciated. Amazing how some people get their feathers ruffled when they see someone doing something different to the way they do it! Why is this a big deal? Why do people feel they have to put someone down? Does my video make them feel inferior? Belittled?
The mind boggles.
Time to move on I think, very disappointing.
Keith.

  For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater,  it's what he does and who he is,  maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners.
  Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend,  please keep it coming.

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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 04:59:23 PM »

  For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater,  it's what he does and who he is,  maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners.
  Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend,  please keep it coming.

  God bless,
  Moe

Excuse you?

What's your problem now?

I posted this as a testament to being right minded like Keith, and in protest to the pretentious  nature of a lot of people concerning fire lays.

Where do you get off jackass?
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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 05:48:02 PM »

  For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater,  it's what he does and who he is,  maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners.
  Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend,  please keep it coming.

  God bless,
  Moe

Excuse you?

What's your problem now?

I posted this as a testament to being right minded like Keith, and in protest to the pretentious  nature of a lot of people concerning fire lays.

Where do you get off jackass?

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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 06:00:10 PM »

  For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater,  it's what he does and who he is,  maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners.
  Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend,  please keep it coming.

  God bless,
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Reported...not called for......

Agreed, it certainly wasn't. I'm not one to go crying to mommy every time some jerkwad acts like a jackass though.

Can't imagine what manner of demons are creeping around in his head that he thinks he needs to apologize for me for posting a video.

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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 07:27:05 PM »
You might want to tone it down weedeater.

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Re: Warning, if you be pretentious and sensitve don't watch this video.
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 08:01:59 PM »
You might want to tone it down weedeater.

You want to tell me what exactly I did to warrant Moe's asinine comment?

You are barking up the wrong tree buddy.
It is time to refuse to tiptoe around people who claim respect, consideration, special treatment, on the grounds that they have a religious faith, as if having faith were a privilege endowing virtue, as if it were noble to believe in unsupported claims and ancient superstitions. - A.C. Grayling