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Title: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 17, 2012, 06:30:26 PM
well I figured I should start a "news" thread, for lack of a better term. This is just going to be an informal area where I make updates as to what's going on in and out of the shop.

I'm working on a new design for a 4" blade. I'm calling it the "Intrepid".

This one is going to have flat, removable scales. Below is a preliminary concept sketch I made. The actual knife will differ somewhat. I'm shooting for a tang extension in the back this time as well. These knives are all going to have micarta or G10 scales on them.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1626.jpg)

I'll keep updating this thread as time allows.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: rogumpogum on February 17, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
Nice looking concept right there! :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: GrowlingBear on February 17, 2012, 10:31:55 PM
I like it PW.  Is there a reason for removable scales?  Just curious.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 17, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
I like it PW.  Is there a reason for removable scales?  Just curious.

None in particular. I just wanted to try something different. :)

Though Red and I have been tossing some ideas around for a hollow tang knife like the now discontinued HEST.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: GrowlingBear on February 17, 2012, 10:59:08 PM
Cool.  You need to make something like the old Chris Reeve one-piece knives.  'Cept a bushcrafty style blade maybe.  You are "Turning" Outdoors after all.  LOL.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 17, 2012, 11:27:52 PM
im first!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on February 18, 2012, 09:55:01 AM
im first!

I wanted to be 1st.  But I will have to settle for #2.............................   ::)

PW:  that knife looks great.  Makes sure I am on the list, please.   ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 18, 2012, 09:57:49 AM
Cool.  You need to make something like the old Chris Reeve one-piece knives.  'Cept a bushcrafty style blade maybe.  You are "Turning" Outdoors after all.  LOL.

I'd love to, but that would require a HUGE lathe. Mine's only a 9X18 with a 3/4" spindle bore.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 18, 2012, 06:41:23 PM
Well here's some embarrassing news... ::)

I cut myself a little while ago. I was opening a frozen pizza with my pocket knife, and I slipped and sliced about a 3/8" flap of skin up on my left index finger. It didn't bleed much, but it's definitely going to mean I will have to put off shop work for another few days. I don't want to get dirt in it.

I immediately poured a few ounces of rubbing alcohol on it (stings!) and got some gauze and tape on it. After a half hour or so I switched to a band-aid. It looks like at least some portion of the flap will heal back on, but the rest is probably going to dry out and curl back away from my finger and just be a general pain in the ass.

Anyhow, be careful out there! Don't be careless and ALWAYS look to see that none of your body parts are in the path of the blade if it slips.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 18, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
pics or it didnt happen ???
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 18, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
pics or it didnt happen ???

Lol, isn't that a peeve! :D

Title: Re: TOKT News **Warning, graphic injury pic**
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 18, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
Ok, I'll post a link to the image, rather than the actual pic so folks who don't want to see it don't have to.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg (http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg)

The "hinge" is at the upper left of the flap.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on February 18, 2012, 07:10:21 PM
Cutting yourself wasn't the embarassing thing.

The part about the frozen pizza was.  ;) 

(http://www.fromvalskitchen.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/greatvaluerisingcrustpepperonipizzabox.jpg)

Title: Re: TOKT News **Warning, graphic injury pic**
Post by: Red on February 18, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
Ok, I'll post a link to the image, rather than the actual pic so folks who don't want to see it don't have to.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg (http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1628.jpg)

The "hinge" is at the upper left of the flap.

ah c'mon man!! thats a scratch! ive gone into the shop with FAR worse :P
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 18, 2012, 07:15:07 PM
Lol, it's worse than that. My wife bought a bunch of nutrisystem food a couple of months ago, and I've made it my mission to eat it all up so it doesn't go bad. :D

So this isn't just a frozen pizza, it's a diet frozen pizza.   ???

And red... Ssssshhhh!

This can get me out of all kinds of honey-do's!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 18, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
Lol, it's worse than that. My wife bought a bunch of nutrisystem food a couple of months ago, and I've made it my mission to eat it all up so it doesn't go bad. :D

So this isn't just a frozen pizza, it's a diet frozen pizza.   ???

And red... Ssssshhhh!

This can get me out of all kinds of honey-do's!


lol! at the cost of shop time though!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 20, 2012, 06:04:42 PM
Well, looks like I'll be another few days before I'm ready to do any hand sanding. But I think I might get a little work done soon using gloves. I really want to try some new construction techniques in the shop. I'm still shopping routers out but once I decide on one I will get a router table built and then it's inlay time!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 20, 2012, 06:27:42 PM
cant wait man!! keep us posted :D and dont use gloves on the grinder.... bad things can happen ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Highlife on February 21, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
Looks like it's going to be a great design.  Hope your finger heals soon and you can get back to the shop!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 26, 2012, 02:12:05 PM
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1639.jpg)

Well, managed to get out to the shop today. I profiled the new "Intrepid" design. It still needs heat treat, then finishing and I've got to put the scales on.

I think the one greatest advantage to removable scales is ease of sharpening. You can take the scales off, and clamp the blade in a grinding jig and get a perfect edge every time. ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 26, 2012, 04:40:06 PM
Well, I have the above pictured knife tempering right now. What remains is to fit some handle scales and put a nice final polish on it, then I can remove the scales (this is awesome) and put the final edge on it. Because of the removable scales I can do all the other work to the knife without having to sharpen it first. Should be a lot of fun. I'm debating what handle material to use, but I think I'm going to go with a dark reddish brown linen micarta.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on February 27, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
PW:  That knife is going to be sweet!  When will the market be open on these beauties?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: rogumpogum on February 27, 2012, 10:04:56 AM
Nice!
Title: Teaser Pic
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 28, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1652.jpg)


Just a little teaser of things to come...
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 28, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Ok, well that's 70 minutes I'll never get back.  :(

But as the saying goes, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. This kydex stuff is not as easy to use as some would have you believe. Last night I overheated it and messed up one piece. Tonight, I pressed a horrible wrinkle into it. Then I re heated it and flattened it and re-pressed it, but the second time around it didn't form well at all.

I'll try again tomorrow. I'm trying to get really good definition in the sheath. I've read up on the tips and tricks, etc. I think I'm just going to have to waste a bunch of this stuff in order to learn. That sucks, but I guess it can't be helped.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 28, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
Well, I tried again anyway.

 This time I got a satisfactory mold, so I went ahead and drilled and riveted the sheath. Tomorrow I'll cut off the excess and burnish the edges. The retention is good, but not too tight, and can be made almost unreleasable by adding a chicago screw in the open hole. The rivets are easier to use than I anticipated.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1655.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1657.jpg)

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: GrowlingBear on February 28, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
Lookin' good, PW.  I like the adjustable tensioner.  I've never seen that before.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 28, 2012, 11:01:14 PM
Lookin' good, PW.  I like the adjustable tensioner.  I've never seen that before.

Thanks, I wish I could claim it as my own.  I have a couple of kydex holsters that have that feature and I figured it was only natural to include it on a sheath. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 28, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
looks good so far :D looking forward to seeing it all done!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on February 29, 2012, 06:38:10 AM
Nice stuff!  You always make it look easy!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Ok, got an ambidextrous, horizontal or vertical carry, kydex/leather hybrid sheath made. This is my first kydex sheath. The molding is the hard part. The rest of it is relatively easy.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Macro/IMG_1658.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Macro/IMG_1659.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Macro/IMG_1660.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Macro/IMG_1661.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Macro/IMG_1664.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on March 01, 2012, 02:55:20 PM
That's really nice!!   You've been a busy camper!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 01, 2012, 03:14:39 PM
Thanks! Not as busy as I'd like, but better than sitting around not building anything. :)

This one was the most fun I've had making a knife in a while because it was a new design and I got to try some new construction techniques.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 06, 2012, 12:42:00 AM
Just ordered some 22" ball bearing drawer slides. ;)

I plan to build a poor man's surface grinder accessory. The idea is to use the glides to make a sliding platform that I can mount under my grinder's contact wheel. Then I can attach a hinge at the back of the base, and a long threaded rod at the front for elevation adjustment. I'll use a combination of rare earth magnets and pins to hold the blade in place on the platform. Then it will be a simple matter of using the screw to elevate the blade until it just contacts the wheel and then sliding the platform in and out on the drawer slides. This should give me a great, even, flat finish on the blades without spending thousands on a surface grinder.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Highlife on March 06, 2012, 11:34:28 AM
Sounds like a plan.  Can't wait to see how it turns out!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 06, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
um... are you talking about for the profile (the flats) on your blades?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 06, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
um... are you talking about for the profile (the flats) on your blades?

Yes.

I've given it a lot of thought, and rather than buy a totally different set of belts for the 4X36 I think this will work well.

The finish I get on the flats using the X16 Norax belts is really great...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1649.jpg)

But holding the blade against the belt by hand takes so much concentration that it stresses me out, lol1 So instead, I'm going to build this sliding jig that will enable me to use my existing belt grinder to grind the flats without taking up much more room in my tiny shop. ;)

This video was the inspiration for the idea, though mine will be a lot less precise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTsWK2wH26Y
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 06, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on March 06, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
looks sharp!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 06, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?

Under $25 most likely. Just the drawer glides for $16, and then I have a bunch of wood and screws already. I also have a bunch of magnets I can use as well, I think I paid $12 for 10 magnets but I won't need to use that many.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on March 06, 2012, 07:07:33 PM
Sounds like you've thought it out from a lot of angles and have a good plan for the adjustable feature, but still able to have it be cost effective.  So you're talking placing it under the large contact wheel, then adjusting it up to contact and use the guides to draw it across to clean the flats...raising as necessary to get them cleaned up.  Pretty slick man!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 06, 2012, 07:18:38 PM
Sounds like you've thought it out from a lot of angles and have a good plan for the adjustable feature, but still able to have it be cost effective.  So you're talking placing it under the large contact wheel, then adjusting it up to contact and use the guides to draw it across to clean the flats...raising as necessary to get them cleaned up.  Pretty slick man!

Yep, that's the plan.. ;)

After watching the video again, I might make it a little more complicated. But I think the drawer slides will do well enough for my purposes. I'm not trying to grind to precision micrometer measurements. I just want a relatively straight and even finish that doesn't take as much care and concentration as hand holding it.

I think I will get a cheap mild steel plate to use as a platform and once the whole thing is set up I can use the grinder attachment itself to face the platform square to the wheel.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 07, 2012, 03:50:24 PM
you are talking less than 10$ for the belts on the 4x36. how much will this rig cost to set up?

Under $25 most likely. Just the drawer glides for $16, and then I have a bunch of wood and screws already. I also have a bunch of magnets I can use as well, I think I paid $12 for 10 magnets but I won't need to use that many.

lol, no worries :) i always forget you like to tinker and build things :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 07, 2012, 08:38:34 PM
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on March 08, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)

So we have that in common, as I also get a great deal of satisfaction from you making things for myself.  :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 08, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
You got it man! I get a great deal of satisfaction from making things myself :)

So we have that in common, as I also get a great deal of satisfaction from you making things for myself.  :D

Heh, that made me grin. :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on March 08, 2012, 02:31:48 PM
I'm trying to save my pennies and purchase more equipment, otherwise I'd like to enjoy the satisfaction of him making things for myself too!!!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 08, 2012, 11:02:16 PM
:D

Thanks guys.

The drawer glides arrived today. They are bigger than I anticipated. But there is little to no discernible "play" in them so I think they will produce a relatively nice flat grind. I'll need to take a few hours to build the slider but I think it's going to work pretty good.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 13, 2012, 03:50:11 PM
Still haven't gotten around to making the poor man's surface grinder attachment. The drawer slides are nice though.

I did get some 3/16" thick green linen micarta and I'm hoping to make a new Intrepid knife only with flat scales using this new micarta, and a scandi grind. I'm considering using 1/8" steel as well.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 13, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
sounds like it would match my folder quite nicely :D looking forward to seeing it!
Title: Teaser pics - Scandi Intrepid Knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 17, 2012, 12:05:15 AM
Ok, I got a little more progress done in the shop.

This is a Scandi grind Intrepid knife. This is the same profile as the orange and black Intrepid I built. But it's got flat green linen micarta scales. I plan to leave the scales with a sanded finish instead of polishing them, for added grip. I've got a little tweaking to do here and there with some sandpaper and need to etch my logo. I expect to have the knife completed by tomorrow, and the sheath as soon as time allows. I'll also get some beauty shots up when the knife is finished, and more when the sheath is completed.

This knife is made from 1/8" thick O1, so it's thinner than the orange Intrepid, but the scandi grind leaves plenty of meat on the blade for strength.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1696.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1697.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1698.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1699.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: rogumpogum on March 17, 2012, 12:20:10 AM
 :o

Again I say...

 :o
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 17, 2012, 10:05:37 AM
looks GREAT man!! good job on that :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 17, 2012, 10:06:53 AM
how wide is that blade from edge to spine PW?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 17, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
I made it from inch and a quarter stock, so just a hair less than that after it's ground and finished.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 17, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
I made it from inch and a quarter stock, so just a hair less than that after it's ground and finished.

10-4 ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on March 17, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
That's really great looking!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on March 18, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
Very nicely done!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 18, 2012, 10:17:08 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on March 19, 2012, 06:34:01 AM
I'm thinking a set of scales like that for a bush baby would be a fine idea, if I do say so myself. 

We're going to need to talk about that soon.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on March 19, 2012, 08:51:25 AM
I'm thinking a set of scales like that for a bush baby would be a fine idea, if I do say so myself. 

We're going to need to talk about that soon.

I totally agree!
Title: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
I figured with all the beautiful file work folks have been posting, I'd better get with it and learn how!

So here's my first ever file work on a knife. I was shooting for a vine and thorn look but it's a bit uneven, and I didn't have a proper knife blade file for the thorns. Regardless, when it's all buffed up it's so shiny the imperfections sort of get lost in the "bling". I'll make a pretty nice knife with this blade.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1751.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1752.jpg)

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on March 31, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
For your first time or your one-hundred time that file work looks great as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 05:35:48 PM
:D Thanks!

I thought it turned out ok. It will only get better the more I practice at it. The hardest part is forcing myself to slow down and be careful about it.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on March 31, 2012, 05:40:33 PM
That's awesome looking PW!

How long does that take?  And are needle files used for that or something else?
Title: Re: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 06:00:36 PM
That's awesome looking PW!

How long does that take?  And are needle files used for that or something else?

I used a round chainsaw file, and a triangular file for the small notches. A good quality needle file would have made the small notches much easier.

I followed the file with some 240 grit emery cloth wrapped around a 1/4" brass rod to remove most of the deep scratches from the file, then went straight to the buffer using green compound on a spiral sewn cotton wheel. If you hold the blade tight and push real hard on the buffer it will polish even as low as a 240 grit finish.

I'd say maybe an hour and a half from start to finish. But with the right tools and lessons learned from this time, the next one will probably take 2-3 hours as I will take longer to make sure it's "perfect".

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 31, 2012, 06:10:54 PM
way better than my first time brother!! i did so badly that i didnt even finish it.... good job brother!
Title: Re: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 06:30:49 PM
way better than my first time brother!! i did so badly that i didnt even finish it.... good job brother!



Thanks man! :)

I hope the knife turns out good too. I'm probably going to use this as a "practice" for our eventual collaboration.

(We'll keep the details a secret for a little while longer, just for the fun of the suspense.)  ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on March 31, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
(http://ukbladesforum.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/stirthepot.gif)
Title: Re: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 06:58:53 PM
Hehe...

:taunt:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on March 31, 2012, 07:08:59 PM
I want to do some filing on my little hatchet mod...Looks great PW!
Title: Re: First ever file work on a knife
Post by: PetrifiedWood on March 31, 2012, 07:14:38 PM
I want to do some filing on my little hatchet mod...Looks great PW!

Thanks! Yeah, would like to see that. I have a "virgin" trail hawk that might get a good filing too when I get a little more practiced at it.
Title: More blade pics
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 01, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Got the file work blade heat treated, ground and polished. Will be doing more work to it in a bit...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1758.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1757.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1756.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1753.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Binalith on April 01, 2012, 05:52:09 PM
That looks really cool man, nice job.
I think the vine effect becomes more convincing if you space the round files a bit closer so there isn't any straight edge between them on the face of the spine, giving it a more organic look.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on April 01, 2012, 05:57:29 PM
That's bad as heck!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Gurthy on April 01, 2012, 06:11:24 PM
While I am not a fan of file work on blades in general I definitely appreciate fine workmanship and that there is good stuff! That's a hell of a job PW!!  :thumbsup:

How long does it take to polish a blade like that...especially with all of those little facets? I'm tired just thinking about it!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 01, 2012, 06:15:09 PM
Thanks Creek!

That looks really cool man, nice job.
I think the vine effect becomes more convincing if you space the round files a bit closer so there isn't any straight edge between them on the face of the spine, giving it a more organic look.


Part of the problem is I put the "thorns" in the wrong place. :crazy:


While I am not a fan of file work on blades in general I definitely appreciate fine workmanship and that there is good stuff! That's a hell of a job PW!!  :thumbsup:

How long does it take to polish a blade like that...especially with all of those little facets? I'm tired just thinking about it!

Buffing it actually goes pretty quick on the buffer. It's working your way up through the sandpaper grits that takes a while. This knife will probably have 4 or so more hours spent on it than it would if I hadn't chosen to polish the blade and do file work.


Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on April 01, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
I forget which one, but a famous knife maker back in the 70's said if they charged by the hour....they'd all be broke.  That is a labor of love!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 01, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
I forget which one, but a famous knife maker back in the 70's said if they charged by the hour....they'd all be broke.  That is a labor of love!!

Very true. It doesn't hurt that I enjoy doing this. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on April 01, 2012, 11:38:52 PM
looks great PW, is that a bushpick blade?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 02, 2012, 12:40:23 AM
looks great PW, is that a bushpick blade?

It's an SWC pattern Woodlore. I like the bushpicks as utility "user" knives but for fancy I figured woodlore would be the way to go. I'm not ready to try 1095 yet or I'd have used the 2012 one you sent me. Though I might do some file work on it and send it to you for HT. :D
Title: Teaser Pic
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 05, 2012, 12:41:01 PM
Just a teaser pic...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1771.jpg)
Title: Re: Teaser Pic
Post by: MATT CHAOS on April 05, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Just a teaser pic...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1771.jpg)

You are killing me you know!

I can't wait! :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on April 05, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
 :drool:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 09, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
Ok, finally I'm getting some time to work on a sheath for the filework woodie I built. I wanted to do a rabbit fur inlay. Unfortunately it's not going to be as easy to accomplish as I'd hoped. Inlays on folded surfaces just don't work well it seems. I also had to "shave" the fur using a #2 guard on some clippers to get the fur shorter so it would be easy to work with and keep it from overlapping the eventual border.

Sadly, I think this project is "scrapped" and I will need to design a fully stitched, snap retention sheath rather than a pouch sheath for this particular knife.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1783.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on April 10, 2012, 04:50:42 AM
I've not seen an inlay like that before.  Interesting
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 10, 2012, 08:25:42 AM
I've not seen an inlay like that before.  Interesting

It was supposed to have a leather "frame" around the outside. But if I'd stitched it to the sheath before folding that would have created a few different problems for me. It would have been extremely tough to get the stitching right.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on April 10, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
very cool idea
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on April 10, 2012, 12:06:10 PM
talk to trentu man, he does rattlesnake inlays and stuff all the time.. also GrowlingBear is a wicked in-layer as well!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 13, 2012, 05:21:38 PM
I have temporarily suspended orders until I get finished with my upcoming move, and can build a new workshop. However, I am completing a couple of existing orders.

This is a custom Kephart inspired blade. 1/8" O1 steel with a full flat grind. It's profiled and rough ground. It still needs heat treat, finish grind, and a handle put on. This is one of the thinnest blades I've ground so far, and it feels like it will be an outstanding slicer!

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1859.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on May 13, 2012, 05:42:13 PM
looks great!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: trentu on May 13, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
If you cover your steel platen with ceramic and make a ceramic platen you can use a large pickup magnet to put the blade on flat and hold against the belt. Works great.

On your sheath. Make your border. Glue it just on the ends, open it up and stitch the ends. Then place a small bead of glue on the loop part that sticks up from the sheath. When you fold it the border should pull tight against the sheath. Wipe any glue off while it is wet. Then wrap tight with some stretch wrap or saran wrap and let dry. Hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 13, 2012, 07:15:37 PM
I have temporarily suspended orders until I get finished with my upcoming move, and can build a new workshop. However, I am completing a couple of existing orders.

This is a custom Kephart inspired blade. 1/8" O1 steel with a full flat grind. It's profiled and rough ground. It still needs heat treat, finish grind, and a handle put on. This is one of the thinnest blades I've ground so far, and it feels like it will be an outstanding slicer!

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1859.jpg)

That Kephart is going to be nice!  Keep us posted with more pictures.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 13, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
Thanks guys!

Trentu,

That does make sense! I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It might be something I can do to salvage the existing sheath instead of cutting out a new one.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: brad.clarkston on May 13, 2012, 10:27:26 PM
Ok, got an ambidextrous, horizontal or vertical carry, kydex/leather hybrid sheath made. This is my first kydex sheath. The molding is the hard part. The rest of it is relatively easy.

Damn that's to cool now I want one for my Condor Rodan. I've always wanted to scout carry it.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
Just a little update, I managed to sneak away for a few minutes and the custom Kephart is in the oven tempering right now. ;)

All that remains is finish grinding, blasting the tang, gluing up the handles, and handle shaping. I expect to finished and have pics up in the next few days if all goes as planned.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 15, 2012, 06:52:55 PM
I can't wait.  I really like a nice Kephart. 
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Half Axe on May 15, 2012, 07:26:22 PM
I can't wait.  I really like a nice Kephart.

+  1,000,000!

The shade of Kephart is looking down at you from the Happy Hunting Ground and smiling, PW.  In a word, it looks like it's going to turn out...............p erfect.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
I sure hope so! :D

I've got about one more hour in the tempering oven then it can cool down and I might see if I can clean up the scale and see how she looks. The 1/8" steel with a full flat grind makes for a very light, trim blade.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 15, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
PW: How long do you keep your knives in your tempering oven and what temperature do you keep it at?



I have a rough forged look on my Kephart.  It has a primitive no nonsense look.  It was one of the knives Beowulf put out.  It was my first convexed edge knife, too.  Looking back now, I wish I got it handleless so that I could put some type of primitive looking handle on it.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
PW: How long do you keep your knives in your tempering oven and what temperature do you keep it at?



I have a rough forged look on my Kephart.  It has a primitive no nonsense look.  It was one of the knives Beowulf put out.  It was my first convexed edge knife, too.  Looking back now, I wish I got it handleless so that I could put some type of primitive looking handle on it.

I temper at 385o F  for 2 hours for my oven. Ovens can vary widely in temperature so you really have to do a little trial and error to see what works best. This temp gets me in the sweet spot between 55 and 60 RC as verified by my hardness testing files. However I think my oven runs a little hot so it might be closer to 400 degrees in someone else's oven.

You can always re-temper hotter, so starting around 370 degrees for 2 hours and then work your way up in 15 degree increments or so until you get a good compromise between wear resistance and flexibility.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Half Axe on May 15, 2012, 08:17:52 PM
Can't wait to see the finished knife.  Keep those pics coming!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 08:31:24 PM
Well, it's out of the oven cooling now. ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
Well, got the Kephart back out to clean it up and put the finish grind on. I went with a 17.5 degree bevel for a 35 degree inclusive edge bevel. The edge is so fine on this full flat grind that I wanted to beef it up a bit. This thing is going to be a razor!

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1862.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1863.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1864.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1865.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on May 15, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
It looks absolutely hideous PW 

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 15, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
Lol, I'm going to have a hard time letting this one go because the thin flat grind is so sweet! Once I pack up my tools and move to the new house it will be a long time until I grind another knife...  :'(
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on May 16, 2012, 12:01:04 AM

I have a rough forged look on my Kephart.  It has a primitive no nonsense look.  It was one of the knives Beowulf put out.  It was my first convexed edge knife, too.  Looking back now, I wish I got it handleless so that I could put some type of primitive looking handle on it.

ive had 2 of those sent to me for edge reprofiling. if you want to get the existing handles off, its really easy :) just get a pot of water boiling, and stick the handle in there for a few minutes... then take a utility knife and start pushing it between the scale and the tang until its nice and loose.. then pull it out, let it cool a little and finish removing the scales :) should not take more than 20 minutes ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 16, 2012, 06:24:58 AM

I have a rough forged look on my Kephart.  It has a primitive no nonsense look.  It was one of the knives Beowulf put out.  It was my first convexed edge knife, too.  Looking back now, I wish I got it handleless so that I could put some type of primitive looking handle on it.

ive had 2 of those sent to me for edge reprofiling. if you want to get the existing handles off, its really easy :) just get a pot of water boiling, and stick the handle in there for a few minutes... then take a utility knife and start pushing it between the scale and the tang until its nice and loose.. then pull it out, let it cool a little and finish removing the scales :) should not take more than 20 minutes ;)

Thanks for the advice!  I might just do that!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Half Axe on May 16, 2012, 10:36:19 PM
Well, got the Kephart back out to clean it up and put the finish grind on. I went with a 17.5 degree bevel for a 35 degree inclusive edge bevel. The edge is so fine on this full flat grind that I wanted to beef it up a bit. This thing is going to be a razor!

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1862.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1863.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1864.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1865.jpg)

 :drool:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 17, 2012, 06:20:14 AM
This one is really going to be a keeper!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 18, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
Got the handle on this afternoon. It just needs some minor finish work done and I'll have some pictures up. ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on May 18, 2012, 05:59:37 PM
looking forward to them :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on May 18, 2012, 07:00:04 PM

I have a rough forged look on my Kephart.  It has a primitive no nonsense look.  It was one of the knives Beowulf put out. 

ive had 2 of those sent to me for edge reprofiling. if you want to get the existing handles off, its really easy :) just get a pot of water boiling, and stick the handle in there for a few minutes... then take a utility knife and start pushing it between the scale and the tang until its nice and loose.. then pull it out, let it cool a little and finish removing the scales :) should not take more than 20 minutes ;)

It was a good knife before but now it is a great knife after Red did the reprofiling on it.
Title: Some doodling, and a template...
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 16, 2012, 03:14:17 PM
Well, the house hunting is slowing down. We're continuing to look, but we have looked at all the ones in our price range and area that are currently on the market so now we are just looking at new ones as they come up for sale. This means that while I'm still busy (not taking orders), I do have time to work on some fun projects.

I decided to revisit the hunting knife. upthecreek has the one and only "Artemis" knife I've made. Taking lessons learned from that knife, I'm going to make another.

This one has a longer, more graceful blade, and while it retains the brass bolster up front, it will lose the brass pommel and have plenty of lightening holes drilled through the tang to shift the balance forward a bit. While it's design draws heavily on the Artemis, it's different enough to require a different name. I'm going to hold off naming it until I have a finished example.

Anyhow, here's the sketch, printed out and glued to some manilla folder backing to make a template.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1910.jpg)


Next time I get some shop time I'll be grinding and drilling this profile.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on June 16, 2012, 03:37:59 PM
cant wait to see it man :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Binalith on June 16, 2012, 03:54:27 PM
psyched!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on June 17, 2012, 07:39:31 AM
cant wait to see it man :D

+1
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 22, 2012, 02:41:14 PM
Had a bit of a mishap with the pin hole diameter so I had to relocate a hole. It won't make a difference in the finished knife.

Anyhow, here's the blade ground and ready for heat treat.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1911.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1912.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on June 22, 2012, 02:46:20 PM
22 is a lot of pin holes.  Don't worry though.  Your aim is sure to get better with time   :P
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 22, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
22 is a lot of pin holes.  Don't worry though.  Your aim is sure to get better with time   :P

:D

Those are .25! (I wish I had a little Seecamp in .32, but that's a whole other matter.)

Actually, the larger holes are just there to lighten the handle and help shift the balance away from the pommel a bit. It's getting brass bolsters, and the full flat grind removes a lot of weight from the front so I have to compensate by drilling the tang. I drilled one of the bolster pin holes with the wire gauge bit I normally use for loveless bolts, when I should have used a 1/8" bit. I relocated it, and if my peening goes as planned the bolster pins should blend in enough so that it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on June 22, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
lol, I thought those were to cut the weight done, that or you were practicing your hole drilling blind folded.  haha

I bet it will matter a lot.  So when it's done and your extremely disappointed and just can't stand the look of her anymore let me know and I'll pm you my address so you can get rid of it   ;D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 22, 2012, 06:00:31 PM
Oh!  You counted the holes! When you said my aim was sure to improve, I thought you were joking that I shot the holes in with a .22 rifle. :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Sudz on June 22, 2012, 06:12:46 PM
You have got to get your home searching done so you can get to making knives! That's going to be a Beauty!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on June 22, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Oh!  You counted the holes! When you said my aim was sure to improve, I thought you were joking that I shot the holes in with a .22 rifle. :D

 :rofl:

No, but that's a great idea though!  Now that would impress at the range   :hail:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on June 23, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
dibs!! that one is gonna end up here in FL, so all you other people will just have to order your own :P


those grinds are awesome PW, nice clean plunge cuts :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 26, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
Ok, got a little more work done to the new hunter design. Heat treated and polished the bevels today.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1914.jpg)


The camera actually focused on the carport's reflection in the blade on this shot. The "rainbow" effect is just WD40 on the blade to keep it rust-free until I get a chance to work on it again.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1913.jpg)

Next will be pinning and peening the bolsters. I might try to get pictures of those steps for those members who might be interested in the process.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Gurthy on June 26, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
Looks great so far, I can't wait to see the finished knife!

Next will be pinning and peening the bolsters. I might try to get pictures of those steps for those members who might be interested in the process.

I'd be interested in seeing the process PW.
Title: New Hunter progress pics
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 26, 2012, 08:55:47 PM
Well, I got a bit ahead of myself before I remembered I was supposed to take pictures.  :-[

Anyhow, what I do is stack the brass and glue the two pieces with a drop of CA glue to hold them, then drill through the pin holes in the knife, adding brass pins as I go to keep everything aligned. I read somewhere you are supposed to use at least three pins, so I used 3 1/8" diameter brass pins. after all the holes are drilled, pop the two pieces of brass apart, and set the grinder table to whatever angle you wish (I used 30 degrees) to bevel the front of the bolsters.

I work my way up to about 600 grit on the grinder and then buff the fronts till they shine. Then I use a taper reamer to ream the inside of the holes, making sure not to ream all the way through. You want a good portion of the hole to be a straight 1/8" diameter, and then widening out towards the outside face of the bolster. This gives the pins a place to expand and lock the bolster in place.

You will want to cut the pins so they are about 1 diameter longer than the thickness of the blade and bolsters. So if you are using 1/8" pins and the knife and bolsters are 5/8" thick, then you will want the pins to be 3/4" long so that 1/16" sticks out on either side.  Chamfer the ends of the pins to help prevent them from splitting as you peen them.

I use a small ball peen hammer to peen the pins, flipping the blade over every so often, giving the pins a good beating. They are impossible to see with the blade rough sanded but they might appear later on as you progress through the grits to final polish. It takes practice to get them perfect. I hope I got them as close as possible this time around but you never know.

Anyhow, in the pic you can see a couple of dents in the front edge of the bolster from misses while peening. the will be gone as I thin the knife while shaping the handle. The next step will be grinding the edge bevel before mounting the scales. If I mounted them first I'd have no place to clamp the jig... :D

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1917.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1918.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1919.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1920.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1921.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on June 26, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
that one is SOOOOO mine!!!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on June 26, 2012, 09:17:57 PM
that one is SOOOOO mine!!!!
I can see why!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on June 26, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
PW......do you ever solder your bolsters?   I pinned a set on one that I put together one time and ended up being able to see the pins after the final polish because the pin material was a different alloy than the bolsters, I guess.......I dun'no :doh:   The pins were a lighter yellow than the bolsters, but after a period of time they they got enough patina built up that you could barely see the difference.   Just wondered if you ever ran into that problem?    I also used nickel brazing rod on a nickel pommel on another knife one time and they matched perfectly, so....... :shrug:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 27, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
PW......do you ever solder your bolsters?   I pinned a set on one that I put together one time and ended up being able to see the pins after the final polish because the pin material was a different alloy than the bolsters, I guess.......I dun'no :doh:   The pins were a lighter yellow than the bolsters, but after a period of time they they got enough patina built up that you could barely see the difference.   Just wondered if you ever ran into that problem?    I also used nickel brazing rod on a nickel pommel on another knife one time and they matched perfectly, so....... :shrug:

There are several things to look out for. One is making sure the pins and holes are clean. Any dirt or patina on them can make the pins stand out. Also, make sure they are the same series of brass or nickel silver. I use C360 brass stock for the bolsters and pins. I hope this one turns out good... :D

I haven't tried soldering yet.
Title: Pics New Hunter roughed out
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 27, 2012, 05:01:18 PM
I still have to touch up a few place with some sandpaper, and of course I'll need to make a pretty badass sheath for this knife.  But this is the "rough draft". One of the pins is partially visible on one side, but for the most part I managed to hide the pins well. I'll probably let it dry out for a few days before doing the finish sanding in case the wood shrinks a bit. And there is a small split in the grain on one of the scales that will need to be filled with CA glue. Oh, and my logo needs to be etched on as well. Anyhow, here she is...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1927.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1926.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1925.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1924.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1923.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1922.jpg)

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on June 27, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
Please save me a whole bunch of money and tell me this is already spoken for.

You keep raising the bar.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on June 27, 2012, 05:31:33 PM
Just absolutely beautiful, PW :thumbsup:     The natural dark woodgrain and brass bolsters always look the best to me, but I'm kinda' 'old school' in preferences for knife materials :cheers:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on June 27, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
That is incredible!  Great looking knife!

Did you ever come up with a name for this yet?

 :)
Title: Re: Pics New Hunter roughed out
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 27, 2012, 06:09:36 PM
Thanks guys!

I haven't picked a name for it yet, still musing on that one. I'm thinking of taking a name from the local environment. I have done that before with the Pinyon knife named after the little pinyon pines in the area. There are lots of cool place names around here I could use.

What's funny is that as I've progressed and gained experience making knives, this knife took me about the same amount of time and the same number of trips out to the shop as my very first knife, in spite of having quite a few extra steps involved. I still have another hour or two in the shop, and then a few more hours to make a nice sheath for it.

The longest most time consuming part was grinding the full flat bevels. Scandis are faster because you remove a lot less material, and they are easier to keep the grind lines and plunges even. (For me anyway.) There are guys out there that can grind the same blade freehand in about 1/10 the time it took me with my jig, but they have been grinding for a loooong time. :D

Anyhow, I hope you guys are enjoying seeing this progress from concept drawing to finished knife. :)



Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on June 27, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
That is frickin awesome Ron!!! That is a gorgeous knife, well done.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on June 27, 2012, 08:44:09 PM
That's gorgeous PW!  The pins really blended in well and those scales have beautiful grain...super job!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on June 27, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
name your price brother!!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 27, 2012, 10:24:21 PM
Thanks guys!

Red, let me finish the knife and sheath before quoting a price. I can tell you that it is already the nicest knife I've ever made, and I hope to do a really nice sheath for it as well. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on June 28, 2012, 12:33:45 AM
that one is begging for a horizontal sheath :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on June 28, 2012, 08:59:27 AM
Woah!  Just saw the finished knife - glad I popped in here before work...  Amazing knife! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on June 28, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
Great job PW,  brass and walnut were made for each other on a knife.    They just have a good look that doesn't get old.  I really like that one.  let me know if you want to know how well it does field dressing a deer and I'll help you out friend   ;D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on June 28, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
that one is begging for a horizontal sheath :D

+1
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 23, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
Ok, it's been far too long since I updated the TOKT news thread. My wife and I have been through a roller coaster ride of ups and downs house hunting this summer. We finally closed on a house today!

I'll get some before pics of the garage that will be eventually transformed into my new knife shop. It's going to take a few weeks to get totally moved in, and a few more to do little "honey-do" projects around the house until I get some time to focus on tearing out the old wall to ceiling shelving and building some proper work benches along a couple of walls.

Anyhow, just wanted to give an update.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: land cruiser on August 23, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on August 23, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
Great news......what a relief, huh :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 23, 2012, 09:58:14 PM
LC and Wolfy, thanks! Yes it is a relief!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on August 23, 2012, 10:14:52 PM
Congrats PW!  That is definitely nice to cross off the list...Now you can focus on fall fun :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 23, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Thanks OE! I hope to get settled in before the first snow. Lots of dead wood on the property that will need clearing out in the spring.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: TwinBlade on August 23, 2012, 11:24:53 PM
Great news. Is this your all's first home?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 24, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Great news. Is this your all's first home?

Thanks TB!

It's our second. We are hoping to rent or sell our first one, whichever happens first.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: TwinBlade on August 24, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
Great news. Is this your all's first home?

Thanks TB!

It's our second. We are hoping to rent or sell our first one, whichever happens first.

I will do the happy dance for rental. Financially, it will be a huge help if it balances out. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 24, 2012, 12:51:31 AM
Either way, if we get renters or a buyer it will make things easier. If we get a buyer, we can pay the remainder of the principal on house one, and then take the profit and refinance house 2 for a lower note. Or if we get renters, the rent will cover house one and some of house 2.

We'll probably still need to sink some cash into house one to make it qualify for FHA which is all most people can get these days. We had to pass on a few nice houses in our search because they didn't qualify for one reason or another.

Still, glad we didn't get those. This one worked out for the best.

View from the back yard. More pics after we get settled in...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120823_194531.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: TwinBlade on August 24, 2012, 12:52:57 AM
Looks to me like you need to perfect your 4' high jump to get into happy land  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 24, 2012, 12:56:23 AM
Lol! Well the deer can do it. I haven't been able to for over a decade. :D

Probably 80% of the stuff you see beyond the fence is BLM land.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: TwinBlade on August 24, 2012, 12:59:16 AM
Lol! Well the deer can do it. I haven't been able to for over a decade. :D

Probably 80% of the stuff you see beyond the fence is BLM land.

Hell it's 4 FEET! do the Fosbury Flop for crying out loud! I won't score it. I promise! LOL!!

What's BLM? Sounds specific and uncool...
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 24, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
Bureau of Land Management. It means, "free to go ape" so long as you aren't breaking any laws or burning down the hillside. It's one of the least restrictive public lands. National forests are a bit more strict. National parks are the worst. You can hunt and camp almost anywhere on BLM as long as they haven't developed some kind of limited use plan because of an endangered mold spore or something.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on August 24, 2012, 04:42:00 AM
Congrats, that's great news!  You've been working on this for a long time and I'm glad it finally paid off for you!!

Maybe I'm lazy....but I'd put a gate in the fence LOL, to heck with jumping!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on August 24, 2012, 05:45:17 AM
Congratulations. Thats a beautiful view you have, and easy access to BLM land is a giant plus. 


Also looking forward to you getting your shop set up and operational. 
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on August 24, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
Wow!

That's a view that won't get old any time soon.  So you'll be sipping coffee and making knives with that in the background???  Lucky Dog

Let me know if the house next to yours goes up for sale.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 24, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Thanks everyone! We are going to start the moving process today. I'm going to be checking in  on my phone as often as I can so if you guys need anything I will still be available here and there today. Hoping to get the internet moved up to the other house soon as well.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on August 24, 2012, 11:50:29 AM
Congrats PW!  Get some pizza ready - I'm on my way over to help you move... ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on August 24, 2012, 02:54:34 PM
Congrats PW on closing on your new house. I get to start the roller coaster now you jumped off and I got on.  We are signing selling contract today with a preapproved buyer for our house 45 days to close.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on August 24, 2012, 04:44:53 PM
Congrats!  Nice view!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 25, 2012, 11:17:24 AM
Thanks guys. Good luck Greyhound! 
Keep us posted. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on August 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Hope the move goes well, wish we were closer to help!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Remo007 on August 26, 2012, 07:31:59 AM
Congratulations PW!!!
                                     I know this was a LONG Process for you. I'll be out closer to ya the week of the 3rd of September. Son is Graduating Marine Boot Camp on the 7th in San Diego, and we are going to be there. I'll try to take some pics to post up. 8) AGAIN... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 26, 2012, 11:31:58 AM
Thanks everyone!

Today I am going to be building a railing for the deck to keep my daughter from falling off. It should be a pretty easy project. Just measuring, sawing, and some deck screws. I'm also adding some lattice to the underside of the deck to keep her from crawling under. It's going to be nice when it's finished. This is one of the biggest few projects that need to be done to the house.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 26, 2012, 07:04:22 PM
Ok, the deck railing is built! I have a picture, but I can't upload it until I get DSL hooked up tomorrow. :shrug:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 27, 2012, 10:51:55 AM
Internet is back up and running. Here's a picture of the deck.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120826_183233.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on August 27, 2012, 06:42:53 PM
Nice work to your nice house!  I really like it!
 ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on August 27, 2012, 07:09:46 PM
Great looking house and you did a good job on the handrail.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 29, 2012, 08:03:38 PM
Thanks guys!

I have been fooling with a new idea on and off while slowly getting things moved. Once I get the shop set up again, I am contemplating setting up a "shop cam". I've been messing around with an ip cam app for one of my old android phones, and I now have it functioning as an ip camera. This means that I can forward the camera port with my router, then using a DDNS service, access the camera feed from the internet using any common browser, or an android app for camera monitoring.

Anyhow, the thought occurred to me that it would be cool to set up a camera in my shop once I have it back up and running. Then folks can watch me make knives. The only problem with this ideas is that each person that views the camera would increase the upload data I use, so it would have to be limited to one or two people, most likely the person who's knife I'm building at the time.

Anyhow, it was just a thought. I may or may not implement it.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: H_Talon on August 29, 2012, 09:51:39 PM

 looks like a great place, I like the idea of the shop cam then I can watch
you make me a 5" intrepid with tiger stripe G10 scales :-)

I'm glad your diggs are going well ... of course we are waiting for the pic's
of your first deer and the knife you dress it out with :-)

  Talon
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on August 29, 2012, 10:13:29 PM
Thanks man! The deer will have to wait at least another season. I don't have a tag this year. I think they do the drawing in February or March. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 05, 2012, 06:51:46 PM
Ok, I got a little time to take some pics of the new house. I didn't get any of the garage yet because that is still a major work in progress. I was vacuuming up rat poop (after spraying with bleach and while wearing a respirator) in the garage loft this morning. So it isn't without it's faults, but it is worth the extra effort to fix it up for sure.

So this is the room that will be my office/man cave etc. I have a futon in here so it can double as a guest bedroom, or for those nights when I'm "in the doghouse" so to speak. it's got a vaulted ceiling and exposed beams, a recessed bookshelf area, and a small closet. It also has a great view with a large window and sliding glass door.

Here are a couple of shots inside the office.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2026.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2028.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2027.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2029.jpg)

Here is a shot of the office from the outside. You can see my reflection in the window.  :P
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2030.jpg)

Just past the porch is the roof to the root cellar. It's full of mice and decades old preserves. It will need to be mucked out some time and mouse proofed but then it will be a nice functional cellar. The next panorama shot was taken standing on this roof.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2031.jpg)

View from root cellar roof.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/backpano1.jpg)

The front of the house has a couple of fountains that drain into a little watercourse that drops into a sump and recirculates. they previous owner had it installed with a toilet tank float in the sump so when it loses water to evaporation and seepage (and thirsty critters) it tops off the system automatically.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2036.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2037.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2038.jpg)

The pine tree in the front yard is dropping tons of pine nuts right now and the squirrels and chipmunks are going ape out there stuffing their cheeks.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2039.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2040.jpg)

Some views from the driveway.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2041.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2042.jpg)

View from the living/dining room out the front of the house.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2043.jpg)

Vaulted ceiling with exposed beams.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2044.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2045.jpg)

View out the living room window to the back of the house. You can see the root cellar roof there again.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2046.jpg)

Here's that gas fireplace that I wish had been left wood burning. But it is still really awesome to even have a fireplace at all. Growing up I never lived anywhere that had one.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/New%20Home/IMG_2047.jpg)


My wife and I have been here almost 2 weeks and we still wake up every day in awe of this place and how lucky we are to have been in the market for a house right when this one came up for sale.

We had looked all over the state. We spent over $1000 in gas driving around for months looking at houses and there was always something wrong with them. They were too far away, they were manufactured homes so they wouldn't qualify for the loan we were approved for, they didn't have a garage. The roofs needed replacing, they had high radon levels, etc. We had two different places under contract and the deal fell through because one was non-conforming to the rest of the houses in it's area, and the other one the sellers refused to make the necessary repairs in order for the house to qualify for the loan.

We had given up hope and resigned ourselves to just living next to those awful neighbors. Then the very next day after the last house fell through, we see these for sale signs go up. This house is only a few hundred yards from our old house4, but it is on a big 2.34 acre lot and is right in the middle surrounded by tree and very private. We are still very close to my in-laws so our daughter can still see her grandparents. Really the only thing we didn't like about the area was our neighbors. And we probably wouldn't have cared about that (or even moved) if we didn't have kids. But all in all it worked out well. I still have a TON of work to do caulking and foaming little gaps, painting, etc. and then I will need to build some work benches and install shelves but the garage has enough room to make a decent knife shop, and has a little side room that will make a good leather shop as well once it gets cleaned up. i'll get pics of that too sometime before I get started and then after the shop is put together. My FIL gave me a band saw he had sitting in his garage unused so I'll clean it up and have a nice tool for making scales out of found materials some time too.

Anyhow, that's the latest. Thanks to all of you for your support and kind words. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on September 05, 2012, 07:13:37 PM
beautiful..I'm jealous!! seems all you need now is a cat or two to take care of the mice. Good job. Good things come to those that wait. I think it helps to be a good person too.

Creek :chopwood:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: GrowlingBear on September 05, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
Way to go, PW!  It looks like you scored a nice place.  How long before you set-up a permanent camp? LOL.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 05, 2012, 07:35:49 PM
WOW.  You chose wisely. 
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 05, 2012, 07:59:32 PM
Thanks guys! We are already living in the new house. And we are moving a little bit at a time each day, kinda taking it easy. I bought a bunch of those plastic storage totes from walmart and will go fill them up, then bring them to the new house and unpack them and put everything where it's supposed to go. I think this will make it so we have everything better organized in the long run. 5 years ago when I moved out to Utah from Louisiana we got into a really small house that was basically gutted in the middle of a remodel. We had to finish building the house with the help of my in-laws and all that while trying to live in it at the same time. I was "living out of boxes" and never really unpacked everything because the house was so small. Whenever I'd want to get something I hadn't used in a while I would have to move a bunch of boxes around to find the box I wanted, then I'd have to dig through everything in that box to find the thing I was looking for. I think this new place has enough room that I will finally be able to organize things so that I have access to them all. That first house we got so cheap it cost about half what a new full size pickup truck costs. We'll get at least double when we sell it just from all the work we put into finishing it, plus the little shop I built out back.

I won't say what we paid for the new house but I will say that there are a lot of big decked out RV's on the highway that cost more than what we paid for this house. It was really the deal of a lifetime. The guy who was selling it lost his wife 2 years ago and he decided to move back East top be closer to his kids and grandchildren. He actually had it under contract with some friends of his late wife before he even listed it for sale publicly. My wife knows the lady who was going to buy it. But she and her husband decided to back out because they didn't want to do all the work fixing it up and they thought the kitchen was too outdated, etc. When we heard they were buying it we were sad that we never got a shot at it. Then when we saw the signs go up we called the realtor that day and had it under contract within 6 hours of it being listed for sale. It was a little more than we wanted to pay, but then again every house is a little more than you want to pay. :) So we'll just have to be frugal for a while and do most of the work ourselves. I have been doing the cleanup, little repairs, helped my FIL install a gas line for the dryer, we built the deck railing, I replaced the locks on the doors, etc. There still remains a lot to be done. But there is a lot less to do than there was a week ago. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on September 05, 2012, 09:27:27 PM
Awesome new place PW, CONGRATS!!

I'm with Creek, I do believe good things come to those who wait.  It sure looks like it paid off...and it sounds like the move couldn't be easier, being that close and all!

Sounds like everyone came out ahead on this one!! :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on September 05, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
are you sure you didnt win the lottery and you just arent telling us?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 05, 2012, 10:05:33 PM
Thanks Dano!

Way to go, PW!  It looks like you scored a nice place.  How long before you set-up a permanent camp? LOL.

GB, I only just got that you meant it literally, a permanent camp! :D

I don't know about that yet, but I definitely want to set up a "winter camp" site somewhere on the property to enjoy a nice walk and a fire in the snow. I can't find any of the property markers and there are no fences though. So short of hiring a surveyor (which is too expensive IMO) I don't really know where the boundaries are.

 :shrug:

I have seen a copy of the subdivision plat at the realtor's office and I will need to get a copy of it. But even that didn't have lat/lon coordinates on the property corners (they never do). It does have bearings and distances from other property markers, but that presents a few hurdles. First, you have to know where a couple of existing property markers are to establish a baseline. Then you need a the very least a pocket transit which typically run in the $300-$500 range, or a real surveyor's theodolite which costs as much as a new car.

Then you have to have permission to dig around on and travel over other folk's property to find the markers, and to some extent trim vegetation in order to clear a line of sight to the next marker. Else you must use a little trigonometry to bypass the obstruction without cutting it down.

My plan is to see if the county's GIS database has a surface ownership plat overlay that can be loaded onto my handheld GPS, and then I will go to the property corners as best I can with about 10 foot accuracy and then see if I can find some property markers with my metal detector. ;)

I know the county has some GPS files that work with Garmin receivers. It's just a matter of whether they have the property lines marked. I'll bring a camera when I go and see if I can find them. I'll be stoked if I do.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on September 05, 2012, 10:14:37 PM
Thanks Dano!

Way to go, PW!  It looks like you scored a nice place.  How long before you set-up a permanent camp? LOL.

GB, I only just got that you meant it literally, a permanent camp! :D

I don't know about that yet, but I definitely want to set up a "winter camp" site somewhere on the property to enjoy a nice walk and a fire in the snow. I can't find any of the property markers and there are no fences though. So short of hiring a surveyor (which is too expensive IMO) I don't really know where the boundaries are.

 :shrug:

I have seen a copy of the subdivision plat at the realtor's office and I will need to get a copy of it. But even that didn't have lat/lon coordinates on the property corners (they never do). It does have bearings and distances from other property markers, but that presents a few hurdles. First, you have to know where a couple of existing property markers are to establish a baseline. Then you need a the very least a pocket transit which typically run in the $300-$500 range, or a real surveyor's theodolite which costs as much as a new car.

Then you have to have permission to dig around on and travel over other folk's property to find the markers, and to some extent trim vegetation in order to clear a line of sight to the next marker. Else you must use a little trigonometry to bypass the obstruction without cutting it down.

My plan is to see if the county's GIS database has a surface ownership plat overlay that can be loaded onto my handheld GPS, and then I will go to the property corners as best I can with about 10 foot accuracy and then see if I can find some property markers with my metal detector. ;)

I know the county has some GPS files that work with Garmin receivers. It's just a matter of whether they have the property lines marked. I'll bring a camera when I go and see if I can find them. I'll be stoked if I do.

Sounds right up my alley ;).   Send me a plane ticket and I'll throw the Brunton and tripod in a suitcase and be right out 8)

PS.......I can sleep on the futon :tent:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on September 06, 2012, 06:18:19 AM
PW:  You really have some gorgeous views out your windows.  Referring to OP's pamper thread: I would pamper my self every morning with a cup of coffee looking out of the windows at that beautiful scenery.   ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on September 06, 2012, 07:35:45 AM
Beautiful looking homestead you found there PW. I think it would be a long time before the views around your home get boring.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on September 06, 2012, 03:26:45 PM
Wow! that's a stunning place to live Ron.  I'm happy for you and yours.  Looking forward to more pics and some of your workspace too.

I've got neighbors I can't stand as well.  Does anyone know if you can get jail time for killing your neighbors dog?  haha...but seriously   >:(
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on September 06, 2012, 06:53:54 PM
Does anyone know if you can get jail time for killing your neighbors dog?  haha...but seriously   >:(

I believe that would be only if you get caught... I can say that here, right?  I mean, we're amongst friends and all... LOL
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: OutdoorEnvy on September 06, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
I believe that would be only if you get caught... I can say that here, right?  I mean, we're amongst friends and all... LOL

They would know it was me for sure...believe me

But then again if I'm not caught in the act...hmm...
Title: Wolfy, you might find this intetresting
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 06, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Well I got out today and took another walk around, this time with the GPS and the county overlay map. However I forgot two vital things. one was changing the map datum to the one the county used, NAD83, and the other was my metal detector. :doh:

Anyhow, I did find a section corner. The subdivision was surveyed, staked and platted in 1977 and I got a copy of the plat from the recorder's office today for $5 and it looks quite a bit different from the county GIS dept. map. I exchanged some emails with the GIS department and they told me they would get back to me with some info after they had a chance to take a look at it. The recorder told me the GIS guys had been in there pulling the same plat map earlier in the day so it looks like they really took my request seriously. :thumbsup:

Anyhow, I asked them to give me coordinates for the property corners on the plat map so we will see if they get back to me with those.

In the meanwhile, I ordered one of the $39 deal extreme Chinese copies of a Brunton pocket transit. You have to balance the needle yourself and there is no dampening but they otherwise receive favorable reviews. If I really like the compass and use it a lot I'll order a real Brunton one day.

Anyhow, during my little hike I saw plenty of things that may or may not indicate prior surveys. There were some trees cut down close to places where my GPS indicated the property corners were supposed to be. BUT, I was using the wrong datum and the map doesn't match the plat. So I could be off by several yards from where the actual corners are supposed to be.

However (and here's the part Wolfy might find interesting) one of the boundary points of the subdivision falls right on the intersection of 4 townships/ranges. There are only two lots in the subdivision that were ever developed, and ours is one of them. The rest of the lots were sold but they have yet to be built upon and it doesn't seem likely that anyone will for a long time. The road isn't even paved past our driveway, nor are there any utilities run past where our lot is. Anyhow, after having no luck spotting any rebar or old axles sticking up out of the ground where the property corners might be located, I decided to try to find the township corner marker. Well this time I had success! There were human footprints leading up to it from the road, and when I got close it looks like a surveyor recently flagged it with fresh tape.

The good news is that with this known point, my laser range finder, and the pocket transit (when it gets here) I should be able to find other markers and work my way along the perimeter of the subdivision until I find one of our own property markers. :D

Here are a couple of pictures of the township marker. This is the intersection of 4 different township/ranges that each contain 36 square mile sections. So it's a pretty neat thing to find.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120906_182412.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120906_182455.jpg)

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on September 06, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
least your neighbors don't suck no more!!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on September 06, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
ABSOLUTELY COOL :banana:   Can you get a close-up of the top of that marker and is it made of iron?   If it is, there should be two short non-magnetic cement posts w/bronze caps embedded in the tops nearby (within about 150 yds.) that are used to triangulate the iron one.  They couldn't survey with a plumb-bobbed magnetic compass transit set-up over the iron one, but the auxiliary markers could be used for that purpose. 

If there's an iron triangle with a dot in the center of that iron one, it's a major mark and azimuths were shot in all directions from it.  Is it in a place of prominence where you can see a way off in several directions?

What principal meridian and baseline is your legal description based on, township number and range number would be cool, too........that way I can follow you along in your quest.  Fun stuff :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 06, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
Yes indeed Creek! Our neighbors are chipmunks and deer and bunnies and squirrels. No bother with them. :)

Wolfy, I sent you a PM.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 07, 2012, 05:17:36 PM
Well the latest is i went out today with my metal detector this time, and slipped on a loose rock. Landed on my ass and I'm in a good deal of pain. i don't think I broke anything but I will be bruised up pretty bad. I've lost fights where I was in better shape afterwards.  :-\

Anyhow, I snapped the lower stem on my metal detector in two in the fall as well. So that cost me almost $30 to order a replacement. Better than buying a whole new one I guess.

By the time the parts get here I should be all healed up and ready to go again.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on September 07, 2012, 05:33:56 PM
How much did you say it was going to cost to hire that surveyor? :rofl:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 07, 2012, 05:50:12 PM
I used to work on a survey crew years ago and essentially you are paying for 1-2 hourly wage guys to come out and dig up some old markers and hold the end of a tape measure, the crew chief who gets paid a bit more, and then the huge fee for the engineer's rubber stamp. I got quotes of $800 to $1200 for a simple boundary survey because they have to drive out here 3 hours from Salt Lake city to do a survey on the previous house (this would have been a requirement in order to buy some city-owned adjacent land, not just to satisfy curiosity).

But it isn't about that. Having worked on a survey crew, it would give me considerable personal satisfaction to find the markers. Sure I could hire a surveyor, but I just can't shake the "do it yourself" mentality I've always had for just about anything. It's why I ordered the replacement parts for the detector instead of sending it off to be repaired. And it's why I built my own deck railing instead of hiring a carpenter. I just would rather do it myself. I can't help it.

 :shrug:

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on September 07, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
Yeah, I don't blame you a bit.....I was just kiddin' >:D    Sounds like fun, actually.  Wish I were closer, I'd come and help you :-\

You mentioned a few posts back about buying one of those Chinese pocket transits for a ridiculously low price.  I've seen them on eBay, but they were running about twice what you quoted.  Where were you finding them for cheap?  I have a friend that is interested in this stuff, too, but is reluctant to spend any money.....this sounds like a great alternative!   Do you have to order them from China and wait for a couple of months, or what...... and have you ever done that before?   
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 07, 2012, 10:57:48 PM
Yeah, I don't blame you a bit.....I was just kiddin' >:D    Sounds like fun, actually.  Wish I were closer, I'd come and help you :-\

You mentioned a few posts back about buying one of those Chinese pocket transits for a ridiculously low price.  I've seen them on eBay, but they were running about twice what you quoted.  Where were you finding them for cheap?  I have a friend that is interested in this stuff, too, but is reluctant to spend any money.....this sounds like a great alternative!   Do you have to order them from China and wait for a couple of months, or what...... and have you ever done that before?

Here's the link:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/professional-pocket-geology-compass-with-leather-carrying-pouch-37796 (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/professional-pocket-geology-compass-with-leather-carrying-pouch-37796)

The review seemed encouraging. I will probably need to do the same and take it apart to balance the needle, but that's no biggie. I haven't ordered from dealextreme before but they accept paypal so I felt pretty safe placing the order. It probably is coming from China but I don't think it will take more than a couple of weeks. I've ordered some USB cable adapters from Amazon that shipped from China and arrived within 2 weeks of ordering them.

I don't expect it to be nearly as nice as a Brunton, but at that price it isn't going to be a big deal even if it totally sucks. That's less than a decent baseplate compass.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 13, 2012, 11:54:38 AM
Well a little update on the fall. I am not sure if I broke anything but I have a pretty big bruise. I just got the replacement lower shaft for my metal detector today. The old one was aluminum with a plastic end. The new one is entirely made of plastic.

But it looks like the detector is working and none the worse for wear. I have the pocket transit on order from China, but that wont arrive until mid october. My wife ordered me a real Brunton com-pro but that is alo backordered at optic planet which had the best price. So that wont be here until october either.

I broke down and sprung for a CST Berger. It should be here tomorrow. :D

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Wounded Thumb on September 13, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
Looks like a real sweet spot out there PW. Is that northern Utah?
Title: Re: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 13, 2012, 12:40:22 PM
Looks like a real sweet spot out there PW. Is that northern Utah?

Eastern, "castle valley" area. Im about two hours from Moab.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 20, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Got out today to look for property corners again. The last few times I looked for them, I was using a GPS and coordinates derived from a county GIS map. The subdivision boundary layer, and the individual lot layers don't line up on the map, so that gave me two possible locations for each property marker, the boundary locations and the lot locations. Neither of the possible layers actually got me anywhere near any real property markers.

So today, armed with m pocket transit and a tripod, plumb bob, metal detector, entrenching tool, and a 200' fiberglass tape measure I set out to find some points on the ground. My wife's grand-aunt came along as well because she loves the outdoors and thought it would be interesting to find the points. We had one point, a section corner that lies along one of the subdivision boundaries, but this is over a quarter mile from my property. Still, it was easy enough to locate. It should be noted that there were no "no trespassing" signs or fences that we crossed in order to conduct our little investigation.

Anyhow, I set up my transit, tripod and plumb bob over the section corner.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/photo_zpse948bfd3.jpg)

I turned the angle indicated on the subdivision plat and it was pointing right through a bunch of trees. Well, I can't go randomly cutting down trees at least until I get on my own property. So we measure due west of the point 193 feet and moved the transit to the new point. Using a smartphone app to solve for triangles when two distances and an angle are known we were able to turn a new angle and measure a new distance to a point that should have been the eastern boundary of the road right of way. This point ended up being about two feet into the road. (This is more common than you might think.)

Anyhow we turned the 84 degrees indicated on the plat and looked west fifty feet to the spot where the plat indicated the marker should be. And there was faded plastic survey tape hanging from the trees!

I pulled fifty feet on the tape and marked the spot on the ground and we dinked around the the metal detector a while and there was nothing. Then I looked about five feet to my left and saw this sticking up from the ground...

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120920_161331_zpsb78402a1.jpg)


Not sure who TL&A are but the BDY PT is almost certainly "boundary point"!

Anyhow, we staged these goofy pictures after finding it. Pretty good for the rudimentary instruments we used. Now I am a lot closer to finding the actual property corners. But that will have to wait for another day.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120920_161202_zps3398aaed.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/20120920_161239_zpsd2f62c04.jpg)





Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on September 20, 2012, 07:19:42 PM
Is that marker on your property PW?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 20, 2012, 07:46:20 PM
Is that marker on your property PW?

No, it's about 500 feet north give or take of my ne corner. This mark is on the west edge of the road right of way.

But it's a huge find. It tells me several things. Most importantly, it tells me that the surveyor who laid out and platted the subdivision did set markers where he indicated on the plat. Second, it tells me what those markers are likely to look like. Unless the corners fall out in a big boulder, they should be an iron pipe with an aluminum cap like this one. The boulder could be drilled and marked with a plate, or might just have a cross chiseled in it that could be hard to locate after 30+ years of weathering. I'm hoping for pipes all around.

The next point marks the end of a curve in the roadway, then the following point will be my NE corner. I can then traverse along the boundary of the lot and locate each point after finding the last. It will be a challenge because part of the property is about 30 feet down in a gully.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on September 20, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Can you tell how close your NOAA published declination figure is to being correct for your area and is there much other local deviation that you could ascertain from back bearings that you took?  It looked like you had about 15 degrees of east declination cranked into your new Berger that you pictured yesterday......is that about what you have there?   
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 20, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
Can you tell how close your NOAA published declination figure is to being correct for your area and is there much other local deviation that you could ascertain from back bearings that you took?  It looked like you had about 15 degrees of east declination cranked into your new Berger that you pictured yesterday......is that about what you have there?

I did have 14 degrees east plugged in but I checked again before heading out today and two different sources, including noaa gave 11 degrees 18 minutes east. So I dialed in a little less than 11 1/2.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 17, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
No new news to report really, but wanted to let people know that I am still in the process of moving. I'd love to gripe about all the reasons why it's taking so long but it boils down to me not wanting to do it all by myself. It will happen, but it will take longer than I wanted it to.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on October 18, 2012, 04:43:11 AM
No new news to report really, but wanted to let people know that I am still in the process of moving. I'd love to gripe about all the reasons why it's taking so long but it boils down to me not wanting to do it all by myself. It will happen, but it will take longer than I wanted it to.


I've always said I'd rather take a beating than move!!  It's like rubbing salt in a wound!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on October 18, 2012, 04:12:04 PM
well, its not going anywhere, so there is that....

Want me to come up there and help?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 18, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
well, its not going anywhere, so there is that....

Want me to come up there and help?

Lol, if you came out here we'd be too busy exploring the woods to waste time doing anything practical! :D
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 18, 2012, 06:37:24 PM
Also, good news today. i stumbled upon another property marker today. I just determined to look for it, and there it was! It's the only marker that I was able to locate that actually bounds part of my property. It marks the beginning of a curve. The plat map shows the two tangent bearings, the radius, the chord length, and the delta angle, but no chord bearing. That sucks because I am too tired to try to figure out how to calculate the chord bearing, though I'm sure there is enough info already available to do so. Anyhow, I set up the pocket transit (used the CST Berger for this) on the point, and then stuck a stick in the ground in the road for an offset. Measured the angle and distance to that stick, then measured from the stick the chord distance along the road. Since I didn't know where to set up the transit, I just guessed and marked the distance. This was within a few feet of the spot where we pulled the offset coming from a pin in the other direction, so it was promising. I turned my angle back from that point and measured out 38 feet and there was no marker in sight. Still, I know I am in the vicinity. It's just that narrowing down that vicinity is proving very difficult. :D

I had no luck searching for the points along the back of the property either. Without one of the front points, finding the back ones will be difficult.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on October 18, 2012, 08:31:50 PM
In Virginia we'd just build a fence without a permit and call it the property line :)

Creek
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on October 18, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
In Virginia we'd just build a fence without a permit and call it the property line :)

Creek

From some of the historical accounts of the metes and bounds surveys done in the original colonies, I'd say there's a lot of truth in that statement, creek :cheers:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 21, 2012, 11:50:23 PM
Found another marker today, another curve point on the front of my neighbor's property. This point and the one I found a few days ago are connected on the plat map by a straight line. The actual property corner lies between the two points, but was not marked by the surveyor. So it's a virtual point with no physical marker. Nevertheless, it will be easy enough locate it within a foot or two of it's actual position.

If I can set up on that point it might give me a better idea of where to look for the rear markers that have so far eluded me. Those are the ones I am most interested in finding, because they will tell me just how much actual room I have to set up a permanent campsite.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: SwampHanger on November 11, 2012, 01:07:26 PM
I have temporarily suspended orders until I get finished with my upcoming move, and can build a new workshop. However, I am completing a couple of existing orders.

This is a custom Kephart inspired blade. 1/8" O1 steel with a full flat grind. It's profiled and rough ground. It still needs heat treat, finish grind, and a handle put on. This is one of the thinnest blades I've ground so far, and it feels like it will be an outstanding slicer!

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_1859.jpg)



That Kephart is going to be nice!  Keep us posted with more pictures.

PW is there a finished pic of this one?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on November 11, 2012, 01:20:52 PM
Yes there is a thread about it being the last knife in my old shop.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on November 11, 2012, 01:23:14 PM
When does the new shop open back up?
 :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on November 11, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
Well the old one hasnt moved yet so...

Probably wont be until next year some time. I will need to build new work benches and shelves and a lot of time consuming stuff. I wish we could afford to just keep the old house but that isnt an option. Still I am going to leave it intact for the most part to let me make a couple of knives before tearing it all apart and packing it up for the move.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on November 27, 2012, 03:25:26 PM
Made a little progress on moving the shop this past week. got my compressor and blast cabinet up to the new house. also packed up my reloading press, dies and accessories and moved that as well. Still a lot to do, but progress is being made.

I am going to buy some heavy duty casters and build a rolling cart for the grinder so I can just wheel it outside to do messy things like handles, to keep dust in the new shop to a minimum.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: rogumpogum on November 28, 2012, 12:03:34 AM
*gettin' antsy*
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on November 28, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
Glad to hear you're having some progress!  Like I said before, I'd rather take a beatin' than move LOL
Title: Re: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on November 28, 2012, 12:55:48 PM
Glad to hear you're having some progress!  Like I said before, I'd rather take a beatin' than move LOL

You mean theres a difference?!!!  :D
Title: Re: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on November 28, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
Glad to hear you're having some progress!  Like I said before, I'd rather take a beatin' than move LOL

You mean theres a difference?!!!  :D

Well, now that you mention it...
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on January 07, 2013, 04:47:05 PM
Well, it's been a while since I updated this thread. But, today I finally made some more progress toward getting the shop moved. I got my spindle sander, table saw, a couple of torches, a bunch of handle materials and half of my abrasives and polishing compounds moved.

 The belt grinder, lathe, heat treat kiln, shop vac, wood burning stove, tool boxes and a lot of random assorted tools still need to move, along with some reloading components and other stuff still at the shop.

But, I have the bug again and I am trying to get as much done as possible while I am motivated. :D  I ordered some nickel silver rod and bar stock too... ;)

Still a ways off before I can make knives again because I will need to build some work benches in the garage to mount my tools, etc.

Also got my portable fire pit moved as well.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: rogumpogum on January 07, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Woo! :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on January 07, 2013, 06:49:29 PM
Glad to hear about the progress looking forward to you reopening for business.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on January 07, 2013, 09:34:50 PM
You're slacking man!

Creek :chopwood:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on January 17, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
Ugh! You got that right! It has been ten days and I just got another load today. Drill press, assorted hardware, a couple of drill press vices and some more abrasives and handle materials. I also grabbed my little 1x30 sander in case I need to grind something.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on January 17, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
I gave up waiting for you to get that lathe moved so you could get that little tapered adapter made for my tripod :doh: :shrug:  A buddy of mine, up the street from me a couple of blocks, made two of them for me this afternoon as long as he was set up.......one for the tripod and one for the Jacob staff I'm going to build :stir:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on January 17, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Lol, no problem Wolfy! Though I would like to see pics when you get them set up. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 19, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
Well, here's the latest news. Still slowly chipping away at moving the last of my tools. I went to the old shop early this afternoon and stripped the lathe down as best I could. I pulled the change gears, chuck, tailstock, and disassembled the carriage and removed the leadscrew. I also removed some sheet metal covers. The motor is soldered in so I decided I wasn't going to try to remove that. I will get the rest of the lathe and it's stand moved next Sunday. I'm hoping to get a few hours this week to soak all the parts I have here in mineral spirits and get them squeaky clean, then make sure it is all as smooth and tight as I can get it when reassembling it. It will be like having a new lathe.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/PWmain%201/random%20image%20dump/IMG_13501.jpg)

The new "shop space" is a mess. It's smaller than the old shop (because we are parking in the garage) but I am going to try to make the best of the available space. I'll still need to run a 220V line for the kiln, and I'll need to build a workbench for the vise, drill press, band saw and blast cabinet. And I'll need to make a rolling cart for the grinder and spindle sander so I can push it outside and keep the dust out of the shop. Lots of work remaining to do. But the lathe is the hardest part of moving. It's the heaviest and most complicated to disassemble and reassemble of all my tools. I definitely need to get it up and running before too long or I will forget how to put it back together! :doh:

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/PWmain%201/random%20image%20dump/IMG_13511.jpg)

Still no idea when I will be back fully operational again, but I expect to be able to use the lathe again within a few weeks.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on May 19, 2013, 05:39:52 PM
You need to get busy my friend :) Progress is progress though!

Creek
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Half Axe on May 19, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Wish I had the time and money to come and visit and lend a hand.  Won't have either time or money for the rest of this year - between job, kids and grandkids I am booked up.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 19, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
I appreciate  the thought. :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on May 20, 2013, 06:04:27 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing some new stuff come out of your shop.
 ;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Binalith on May 20, 2013, 06:47:24 AM
waaaiitttinnngg....
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 04, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, the lathe move is scheduled for tomorrow. :banana: I'll have it cleaned up and reassembled within a few days and be ready to start machining stuff again. I've got a lot of pet projects I've been waiting to try so I am looking forward to this big time!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on June 04, 2013, 08:19:09 PM
Hurry up....
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 05, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
The lathe is here! I still need to get time to clean it up and reassemble it before I can make anything on it, but the truly hard part is over. This is a huge step. Moving the rest of the shop will be relatively easy, and nothing I can't handle on my own. :banana:

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/PWmain%201/random%20image%20dump/IMG_22321.jpg)



Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MnSportsman on June 05, 2013, 05:02:51 PM
:thumbsup:


Good to see you are making progress in setting up the shop, PW.
:)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on June 05, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
Congrats on the progress, I know that's been on the list for a bit now :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 05, 2013, 09:37:29 PM
Thanks guys! I actually got it back together just a little while ago. Soaked everything in mineral spirits and cleaned all the gunk off. It's cleaner now than it was when I bought it. I still need to make a couple of minor repairs. There is a screw that needs replacing, and a new cross slide base I need to install. The old one cracked but I was able to repair it using the lathe itself, but I bought a new one and it will need to be drilled and pinned together. I can't do that until I get some work benches set up and get my drill press set up. But the lathe will work for now as-is.

Hopefully I can get some time tomorrow to test it out on some aluminum to see if it still makes a precise cut. I might make a cool plumb bob or something.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: greyhound352 on June 06, 2013, 03:43:43 AM
Great news PW ! Looking forward to seeing some new stuff.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: crashdive123 on June 06, 2013, 04:57:53 PM
The only thing better than putting a new shop together is using it after you are done.  Looking forward to seeing how you have things set up.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on June 06, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
Glad to hear it went back together well!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 06, 2013, 11:55:45 PM
Well, the jury's still out on that! Everything seems tight, but I get a lot of flex in the cross slide/compound area when knurling. Also, the surface finish is not what I'd like to see either. I have been using a carbide tool tip but I think I might switch over to a HSS bit and see if that's the problem. I tried a bit of threading and that din't turn out how I'd like it to either, with a poor finish. My threading tool is HSS so I don't think that's the problem. I probably just tried to take off too much material with a single pass. I will try again next week when an oddball drill bit size I ordered comes in.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on June 12, 2013, 12:07:36 AM
I think I can attribute the poor finish on my use of motor oil instead of proper cutting oil. I'll have to go get the cutting oil from the old shop along with another load of stuff.

While the knives are not going to be ready to go for a while yet, I am happy to announce that I can make brass and aluminum firesteel handles again! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 13, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
Nothing new to report shop-wise. My lathe has been set up and operational for some time, but the rest of the tools are still in boxes for lack of space.

A member contacted me to make a ferro rod handle and I agreed, but I forgot that my drill press wasn't set up! :doh:

So this one doesn't have a lanyard hole. Otherwise it's the same as all the others I've made, re-usable by punching out the old ferro rod and installing a new one with blue loctite.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Knife%20and%20Tool%202014/IMG_26741.jpg)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/IMG_26751.jpg)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on May 13, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
Looks good PW! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 13, 2014, 06:26:58 PM
Thanks KK. It's been a while since I made anything from scratch. Was nice to get out there and turn something out.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Mr. Tettnanger on May 16, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
Looking good!

If you decide to crank out a few more of those ferro rods, I would be down for a few!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on May 16, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
Glad to see you're getting the new shop up and running!!  I've been looking forward to seeing you back at it again  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on May 17, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
Thanks KK. It's been a while since I made anything from scratch. Was nice to get out there and turn something out.
So... When can we see some new TOKT knives here? :drool:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 21, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
Thanks KK. It's been a while since I made anything from scratch. Was nice to get out there and turn something out.
So... When can we see some new TOKT knives here? :drool:

Probably still going to be a while yet. I hadn't anticipated how busy I'd be when we moved to the new house. When I build my last shop, we didn't have a child yet. Now that we do, there is a lot less time to build.

If the shop was already set up I'd probably go and make a knife every so often when I can catch a few minutes to work on it. But a shop isn't the kind of thing you can work on for a few minutes and put diown for a few days. That's how you get a bunch of OSB falling apart from being rained on...  :-\

Anyhow, my daughter starts preschool in the fall, so maybe that will mean more time, or less. But it will be different.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Spyder1958 on May 22, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
Look forward to getting on your build list when you get back to it PW.  :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on May 22, 2014, 07:00:31 PM
Slacker..... :P
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: kanukkarhu on May 22, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
Look forward to getting on your build list when you get back to it PW.  :)

Bushpick!
Bushpick!
Buuuuusshhhh-pickkkk!

 :banana:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 22, 2014, 09:55:44 PM
Lol, you guys are too much! :D

Red, I know you managed to turn out some awesome knives in very cramped quarters. So I am considering just biting the bullet and trying to set up my shop in the garage, which is really tiny but I really want to get back to making knives. I have also considered building a file jig so I can make bevels indoors in my office where I have (a little) more room to work.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on May 22, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
I did a lot of knives in a 5x10 storage locker for 2 years. You would be surprised what you can get done in a tight space like that. That said though, I did have to move the leather work to the house, it was just too dirty in there to have clean leather.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Dano on May 23, 2014, 06:58:22 AM
It seems you had a metal garage built after the move didn't you?  After seeing my investment in our storage shed I built, I'd be looking really hard at one of those metal buildings with the arched roof if I had the space to put one up.  (Plus I'm on a rental lot anyway)  I did a 12X16 with storage trusses, and wired it to have 50 amp 240 service and have about $2500 in it- and still no heat or a/c, which is badly needed here. 

I saw a metal carport that was something like 12X20, with an advertised price of just under $1000.  It wouldn't be that much to seal one end, cover the other end and add a door and get going like that.  It wouldn't be exactly the most pristine of shops, but might be an alternative to a much more expensive investment.  Plus it could be moved if you ever relocate again.

Since it's considered a "temporary" building here, you can get away with a treated 4x4 or 4x6 to mount the electric service panel as long as you drive a separate ground rod for it.  PVC conduit or MC cabling and you can mount the wiring inside as needed.  Like I said, not pristine, but very serviceable.  I'd kill for one LOL

If you have a double lugged meter base, you're set!
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 23, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Dano, we talked about getting one of those buildings. Ultimately I'd like to get a separate garage for the cars, then wall up the garage door for more living space and build a separate shop.

We have plenty of room here but everything is on a slope and covered with trees. So I will need to cut down trees and then either build on some sonotube piers, or get some fill to level the land. One of our friends up here knows a guy who owns a dozer so if the price is right I might get a flat spot made.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on May 23, 2014, 11:51:35 AM
I did a lot of knives in a 5x10 storage locker for 2 years. You would be surprised what you can get done in a tight space like that. That said though, I did have to move the leather work to the house, it was just too dirty in there to have clean leather.

Yeah even at the old shop I still did leather indoors since it was easiest. I would still do the same no matter what kind of shop I end up using.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Red on February 19, 2015, 09:44:10 PM
Resurrecting this thread to say....



:P SLACKER :P
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on February 19, 2015, 11:12:24 PM
Yeah, yeah, I know...  :-[

I still have my tools, just no room to set them up. Originally the garage was supposed to be a workshop, but it ended up being used to park a car instead. :D

Maybe I can get away with building a portable bench on the back porch. That would at least let me set up a grinder. The ht oven is another thing. I will need to poke a hole through a wall to run a 220V line for the oven.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: BigHat on February 20, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Yeah, yeah, I know...  :-[

I still have my tools, just no room to set them up. Originally the garage was supposed to be a workshop, but it ended up being used to park a car instead. :D

Maybe I can get away with building a portable bench on the back porch. That would at least let me set up a grinder. The ht oven is another thing. I will need to poke a hole through a wall to run a 220V line for the oven.

Sounds like you've already figured out the solution.  :)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: wolfy on February 20, 2015, 07:28:00 AM
I don't have a 'shop' in our house in town, either. :'(   I do have a nice reloading area in the basement, though.......I'd go crazy without that. ;D    Bullet casting & reloading is all done there and I NEVER have to move any of the junk associated with the operation......I'm VERY grateful for that! :banana:
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MATT CHAOS on April 17, 2015, 07:59:12 AM
Yeah, yeah, I know...  :-[

I still have my tools, just no room to set them up. Originally the garage was supposed to be a workshop, but it ended up being used to park a car instead. :D

Maybe I can get away with building a portable bench on the back porch. That would at least let me set up a grinder. The ht oven is another thing. I will need to poke a hole through a wall to run a 220V line for the oven.

If I am not mistaken, I have the same brand of HT oven as you.  Question, why did you go with the 220 instead of the 110?
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on April 17, 2015, 08:04:10 AM
When I bought mine it was on sale. I think it was a custom size that maybe someone had ordered and never purchased or something like that. I think it is like 26" deep. Anyhow the 220 is suppose to heat up faster. 110 would be a lot more convenient though.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MnSportsman on January 05, 2017, 11:44:21 AM
Been a while... Have any "New" news about your knife/tool making?
;)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: PetrifiedWood on January 05, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
Nothing new. It's still "on hold" indefinitely while I raise some kids. :D

I have resolved to do things a little differently next time though. I am not going to muddle through with my Grizzly Grinder. I have had a few realizations about "buy once, cry once" and IO think I am going to get a very nice grinder next time, with variable speed (water cooled would be even better) and I will keep the Grizzly outdoors for sanding handle materials so my shop doesn't become a huge mess like it used to.

Right now I just don't have the funds or the time to give it the attention it deserves.
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: upthecreek on January 05, 2017, 04:23:57 PM
 I have this handy and almost knocked the new off it on my New Years river trip. I'm testing all my kits and I'm going to use this one soon. You only raise your kids once. Look forward to your return to knifing thought.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/IMG_2046.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/IMG_2046.jpg.html)

This thing better through a spark!  :fire1:

Creek
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: MnSportsman on January 05, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
Taking care of your family should always come first. I understand.
:)


Just curious if you had any new projects in the planning stages, that's all.
:)
Title: Re: TOKT News
Post by: Binalith on January 06, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
I have this handy and almost knocked the new off it on my New Years river trip. I'm testing all my kits and I'm going to use this one soon. You only raise your kids once. Look forward to your return to knifing thought.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/IMG_2046.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/IMG_2046.jpg.html)

This thing better through a spark!  :fire1:

Creek


still have mine too! works great, love that thing!