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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2017, 07:36:19 PM »
Hope it is ok if I steal your idea?



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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #101 on: October 26, 2017, 01:05:08 PM »
Really Really nice Sarge!  When you get brave enough for a passaround I call first dibs! 
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #102 on: October 26, 2017, 03:30:34 PM »
Little late in the game for that OE. 
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #103 on: October 26, 2017, 06:01:32 PM »
Little late in the game for that OE. 
Yeah......no cuttin' in line! >:(
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2017, 08:44:13 PM »
You guys are all business! LOL
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #105 on: October 26, 2017, 08:48:52 PM »
I do believe that's the first time I ever heard that being said of me. :shrug:  :lol:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2017, 09:21:05 PM »
I do believe that's the first time I ever heard that being said of me. :shrug:  :lol:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2017, 09:26:49 PM »
Well, I got it sharpened and finished the sheath for it.


It cuts like the second one so I'm pleased with it.





Now, onto #4....

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2017, 08:45:05 AM »
Love it!  I really like the slim sheaths that aren't any bigger than they need to be.  That is a great package.  Safe to say you found the right one and can proceed with replicating it?
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2017, 05:43:54 PM »
I like the layard hole & sheath.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2017, 08:49:58 AM »
Horace and I don't need no steenkin' lanyard holes! :cheers:




........but we both love simple, moulded, pouch-style sheaths with NO retaining straps. :thumbsup:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2017, 10:12:18 AM »
I too like no lanyard holes, fancy pins, or other stuff, on this particular knife.  The sheath is fan *&^%^& ing tastic. 

The reason for the simple approach to this knife is that is replicates an icon knife.  If I had two of them one would be plain and the other could have the mosaic pins and lanyard hole and stuff like that.

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2017, 11:48:27 AM »
EXACTLY! :thumbsup:   This IS an ICON knife and doesn't need foofaraw to make it 'better'....it's already better in its original-design simplicity.  Since Sarge is a talented custom knife-maker that has been blessed with a RARE opportunity to measure and photograph an original, he can please EVERYONE that desires extras in theirs  :shrug:.....or for the purists among us O:-) O:-), an even more rare opportunity to own a close-as-humanly-possible copy that hasn't been ed with, or one that has the original design sullied in any way, shape or form! :banana:
« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 12:27:13 PM by wolfy »
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2017, 02:49:05 PM »
Thanks, guys. I really appreciate the interest in this knife. I am equally as excited by it.

I don't know if Loveless coined the phrase or just repeated it but he's the first I heard say it regarding his classic skinner, "it's everything it needs to be and nothing it doesn't". That has been said about this knife, too.

The original, at a glance, is so simple yet it has much going on. I won't pimp it out too much - just a lanyard tube here ... maybe a mosaic pin there. Same with the sheath. I think I like the latest one best thus far - simple, minimal, etc. Again "it's everything it needs to be and nothing it doesn't".

Knife #2 is probably the best cutting knife I've made to date. Knife #3 should be very close (geometry wise) - I just haven't used it as much. Put Knife #2 through the paces at a recent outing - several of us cut, chopped, shaved, whittled, and batoned hickory all weekend. I only stropped it once or twice the whole time. Not bad for saw blade mystery metal. I'm quite pleased with it.

I'll get #4 under way asap.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2017, 03:47:45 PM »
Thanks for that update Sarge.  Those of us on the "where is mine?" list are pleased as punch with the progress you are making.

I like what Loveless said about particular knives.  Spot on.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #115 on: October 31, 2017, 05:25:07 PM »
well once again i'v been inspired by sarge's work to do my own set
of kepharts, a few because i dont want to do all of them in black walnut, just 2.
the rest will be other types of wood, but no lanyard holes and all will use
brass cutlery pins. as of today i have 4 in the works. i really like
some of the wood i'll be using. and i hope to show them.
btw, i hope this is'nt conciderd hijacking the thread in anyway.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #116 on: October 31, 2017, 06:25:19 PM »
btw, i hope this is'nt conciderd hijacking the thread in anyway.

Take it from the King of Hijackers.....it ain't! :lol:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #117 on: January 06, 2018, 12:54:43 PM »
Worked the past month or so clear off the work bench. Finally got back to this project this week.


#1, 2, and 3 across the top. #4 is at the bottom of the pic (#5 is above #4). I feel like I'm getting close with the grinds but I'm trying to shave weight now. The original weighs in at 5.5 oz. and mine so far have been around 7 oz. I didn't think to weigh any of those blanks before I added scales.

On #4, I tapered the blade and tang a little more that the first three. I also hollowed out the tang a bit and got the blank's weight down to 4.75 oz. I'll see how it ends up with scales/pins and see if I need to make the next blank even lighter before scales.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2018, 08:03:27 PM »
Since you're getting this close......we need to talk before you make the actual 'Wolfhart.' 8) :banana:       I have a couple of thoughts & questions. :P :shrug:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #119 on: January 06, 2018, 09:37:22 PM »
Since you're getting this close......we need to talk before you make the actual 'Wolfhart.' 8) :banana:       I have a couple of thoughts & questions. :P :shrug:
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #120 on: January 06, 2018, 09:40:26 PM »
I think my spot is after wolfy. 

Sarge, just make mine however you want.  Closer to the original the better but tweaks here are there are fine.  Thanks.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #121 on: January 06, 2018, 09:47:54 PM »
wsdstan :duel: wolfy

Hahahahaha!

You got it, Stan!

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #122 on: January 09, 2018, 05:52:51 PM »
Just finished #4.


I used a caliper to check handle dimensions/thickness while shaping it. Not sure why I didn't do it with the others but I feel like I really got close to the shape and contour of the original this time.


I tapered the tang a little more than the previous attempts to shed weight.


In addition to the taper, I concave ground some more steel from the center of the tang. I got the blank down to 4.5 oz. before the scales / pins. I didn't weight any of the previous blanks before adding scales so now I know the target weight before adding them. The finished weight with scales and pins is 5.5 oz. - that's the weight of the original.


As a result of lightening up the tang, the balance point is just slightly forward of the pinch point. Not a big deal but with #5, I'll try to taper the blade a little more and the tang a little less to push the balance point back to the pinch point.


Kept it simple with the sheath.

Gratuitous final shot...
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #123 on: January 09, 2018, 06:00:23 PM »
That is just WOW!  Great job Sarge.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #124 on: January 09, 2018, 07:06:39 PM »
I know I've said it before, but....

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #125 on: January 09, 2018, 07:14:54 PM »
Thanks, wsdstan.

Can't go wrong with Flounder, wolfy...after all, he's a legacy.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #126 on: January 09, 2018, 07:51:33 PM »
The knife as a whole just looks fantastic but the thing that stands out most to me is the precision of the tapers. Very nice.

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #127 on: January 09, 2018, 07:53:03 PM »
Thanks, wsdstan.

Can't go wrong with Flounder, wolfy...after all, he's a legacy.

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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2018, 04:22:21 AM »
Fantastic

Wonderful.
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Re: Colclesser Project WIP
« Reply #129 on: January 10, 2018, 04:31:52 AM »
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