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Offline crashdive123

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Passive Aggressive
« on: December 02, 2022, 02:22:17 PM »
A disorder characterized by a pattern of indirect expression of hostility, including negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance in social and occupational situations.

Many are growing tired of it.  Just stop.

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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2022, 05:47:08 PM »
I am familiar with the concept.

If my responses to issues I have not raised but are introduced by others in thei course of comments are in some manner objectionable that is I think within the bounds of propriety and rules of the road.

I try in good conscience  to differentiate between statements of faith and proselytizing, for instance. I also recognize among the few remaining members social and political views may differ. Parsing opinion from fact is often difficult and mistakes can and do happen.

If a member puts forth an opinion it is only that. When evidence supporting a different conclusion is offered In rebuttal that seems neither passive nor aggressive.

Among the consistent themes in the posts  offered comity and reliance on factual evidence have been prominent. The opinions on gear reviews for instance are opinions but the conclusions upon which they are based through use and research are included. At least that is my aim.  I firmly believe we are all in the same boat regardless of how things may appear in the moment.

I try to be respectful yet straightforward in my statements. By inclination and training I favor scientific research and reproducible fact based evidence. Broad labeling, popular among some remaining members, is avoided.
In the same vein I do not tolerate bullying.

The number of posts continue to decline. The few remaining stalwarts offer little new material. The once robust site is essentially moribund. Perhaps an insistence on unanimity of opinion and doctrinal obeisance may have played some role in the current state of affairs?



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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2022, 07:44:28 PM »
Wow.  Funny that it appears that you thought I was referring to you.

As I said...time for it to stop regardless of the source, or I will stop it.

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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2022, 07:39:27 AM »
Now THAT is "passive aggressive ". Lol
 Appreciate the irony.  Well done

A blanket diagnosis of a behavioral disorder is a chancy gambit. Especially for a layman(?).

 

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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2022, 10:39:27 AM »
    A casual observer might note the last few lively discussions have been waged between residents of highly populated places along the Eastern coast of the U.S. and others from much less populated rural areas much further West. There are those in between, in the Midwest, that say nothing.
   In the 1930's A theologian from Germany studied in America and then returned to Germany to share what he had learned over the years. Dietrick Bonhoffer wrote an essay on stupidity. (Google that one)
   In that essay he noted the differences between residents of highly populated areas and those from much more rural locations. He also noted the effects of those people that said nothing. (It wasn't good)
   If you take the time to read and study his essay, you'll see that his definition of stupidity has nothing  to do  with intelligence. Very smart, intelligent people do stupid things when they act as a collective group. A group that spends to much time together, feeding off of each other in a kind of societal pack.
    Those from rural areas are not afflicted with this phenomenon as they seem to have the opportunity to reflect on the issues without outside interference.
    So......no passive aggressive deal here. If you live in a highly populated area like NJ, FL, etc. You might be part of the stupid group. There I called it. study the essay and then declare Dietrich Bonhoffer wrong.
   Oh, by the way, the political party in power in Germany in 1944 hung him. Guess he made too much noise.

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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 09:50:57 AM »
    A casual observer might note the last few lively discussions have been waged between residents of highly populated places along the Eastern coast of the U.S. and others from much less populated rural areas much further West. There are those in between, in the Midwest, that say nothing.
   In the 1930's A theologian from Germany studied in America and then returned to Germany to share what he had learned over the years. Dietrick Bonhoffer wrote an essay on stupidity. (Google that one)
   In that essay he noted the differences between residents of highly populated areas and those from much more rural locations. He also noted the effects of those people that said nothing. (It wasn't good)
   If you take the time to read and study his essay, you'll see that his definition of stupidity has nothing  to do  with intelligence. Very smart, intelligent people do stupid things when they act as a collective group. A group that spends to much time together, feeding off of each other in a kind of societal pack.
    Those from rural areas are not afflicted with this phenomenon as they seem to have the opportunity to reflect on the issues without outside interference.
    So......no passive aggressive deal here. If you live in a highly populated area like NJ, FL, etc. You might be part of the stupid group. There I called it. study the essay and then declare Dietrich Bonhoffer wrong.
   Oh, by the way, the political party in power in Germany in 1944 hung him. Guess he made too much noise.

 Or maybe it speaks to the collective mindset of the German People, they did in fact start two world wars that cost the lives of millions of German and Allied soldiers and civilians, and killed millions more men, women, and children in the Purifying Holocaust process, some German citizens supported the actions, other said nothing thereby contributing to the carnage, so maybe Detrich Bonhoffer isn't in a position to judge Americans, then or now.   :shrug: 
 I do agree however with the people venting their anger with his arrogance, though their methods of dealing with it could be deemed a bit harsh.  :shocked:
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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 12:57:49 PM »
   Nice twist, just like Bonhoffer expected.

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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2022, 07:53:27 AM »

 I wouldn't know, I've always been pretty rooted in reality, in my career I've met and dealt with allot of different people, when it comes to internal medicine I found that most Health professionals and care givers are very capable people, most highly intelligent, compassionate, and selfless, but when it comes to affairs of the mind and or the propensity for social engineering I've found most shrinks and would be sociologist are about all bat $hit crazy, or extremely well bent mentally and usually emotionally unhinged.
 This Dietrick fellow seems a good fit for that group I would think.  :shrug:
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Re: Passive Aggressive
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2022, 09:37:30 AM »
Dismiss, discredit, disparage and if that doesn't work, hang 'em.
No need to reread the essay. Sounds like you got it covered.