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Title: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 23, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
I am offering Speedy Stitchers at what I believe is the lowest price on the internet.

If you find a lower price in stock online, pm me with a link and I'll beat it.

Here's the deal;


 $7.49 each plus shipping OR buy 4 or more for $6.99 with free shipping

Order 12 or more for $6.49 each with free shipping.



And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.


This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.


Product Description:
Kit includes the awl, a heavy duty straight and curved needle, a fine needle, a bobbin with 14 yards of heavy duty waxed thread and instructions- all 100% made in the USA.


(http://firefabricsdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/speedystitcher_main.jpg)

The Speedy Stitcher is a must have for every homestead, deployment kit, household tool box and more- you can sew heavy duty canvas, nylon and other fabrics. Use it to repair all kinds of stuff- even Jeep tops- or to sew custom gear.
                                                                           


Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on September 23, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
I am in for 2. When ya have the time.
:)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: wolfy on September 23, 2015, 08:02:18 PM
WOW!  That's an unbelievably good deal.....I'll bet the one that I inherited from my dad cost more than that and he bought it in the late '50s!
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 23, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
WOW!  That's an unbelievably good deal.....I'll bet the one that I inherited from my dad cost more than that and he bought it in the late '50s!


At my price it may be cheaper to buy a whole new stitcher than replacement needles and thread.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 23, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
I am in for 2. When ya have the time.
:)


You got them JB.
I won't be shipping for a week or so, so no rush. 
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 23, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Awesome! Send me a PayPal bill for 2 plus shipping. PM me if you need my address. This might convince me to go back to an awl from saddle stitching.

Any idea if these will fit the same needles Tandy sells? If not I can compare them when they arrive.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 08:45:56 AM
Awesome! Send me a PayPal bill for 2 plus shipping. PM me if you need my address. This might convince me to go back to an awl from saddle stitching.

Any idea if these will fit the same needles Tandy sells? If not I can compare them when they arrive.

I don't know if the needles are the same size as the Tandy version, please let us know if they fit when you get the Speedy Stitchers.

Thanks
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
I just want to point out for those of you considering buying two, that comes to $20.33 with priority shipping, or $10.33 each.

You may want to consider getting 4.  With free shipping the cost for four comes to $27.96, or $6.99 each.

I want you to get the best buy.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pommie on September 24, 2015, 01:19:19 PM
Put me down for 4 then please

PM with details.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 01:23:39 PM
Put me down for 4 then please

PM with details.

PM on the way.

Thank you
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on September 24, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
OK. I will take 4 instead of 2 then, please.  Let me know when you are ready. Thanks!
:)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
OK. I will take 4 instead of 2 then, please.  Let me know when you are ready. Thanks!
:)

Send it whenever you would like JB.

I'll be shipping at the end of next week as long as my shipper does his job.

Thanks
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 24, 2015, 02:09:43 PM
Ok, make it 4 then. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 02:16:49 PM
Ok, make it 4 then. :thumbsup:

I figured I could convince you  8)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 24, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
Ok, make it 4 then. :thumbsup:

I figured I could convince you  8)

Yep. It's good to have spares, and I know a couple of people who could probably make use of them.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: JTD on September 24, 2015, 04:25:47 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but can you use these with leather? 


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Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but can you use these with leather? 


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You bet, in fact they also call this a saddle sticher
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: JTD on September 24, 2015, 04:43:54 PM
Well then please add one to my tab!


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Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pete28 on September 24, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
 Mike how much would 5 of them be shipped? I did tell my buddy about the chute but hes been pretty jammed up so it may be a bit before he can get in touch with you.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 24, 2015, 07:00:52 PM
Mike how much would 5 of them be shipped? I did tell my buddy about the chute but hes been pretty jammed up so it may be a bit before he can get in touch with you.

Pete,

5 would be $34.95 shipped ($6.99 each) and please tell your buddy that chute is his when he is ready. 
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pete28 on September 25, 2015, 03:42:05 AM
Will do thank you sir

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Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 26, 2015, 10:41:24 AM
Just a bump for the weekend crowd.

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 28, 2015, 09:12:50 AM
And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.

This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on September 30, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
PayPal sent. ;)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: upthecreek on September 30, 2015, 10:36:08 AM
And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.

This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.

I take back all the bad things I said about you last week  :cheers:

Creek
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on September 30, 2015, 10:40:40 AM
And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.

This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.

I take back all the bad things I said about you last week  :cheers:

Creek

Thanks but they were probably all true  >:D
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 06, 2015, 04:32:36 PM
After waiting for the truck all day, the trucking company just informed me that I won't have my delivery until Thursday.

That's why I generally pick the stuff up myself, but this was too long a haul for me.

Sorry gents.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on October 06, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
Things happen...
;)


Considering the recent weather... No Sweat from over here.
;)


I am sure you will let everyone know... when things are good to go.
:thumbsup:


Don't sweat the small stuff.
;)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 06, 2015, 09:50:42 PM
I am not in a hurry for them. It's too good of a deal to care about shipping times. :)

My R/C hobby has me accustomed to waiting 6 weeks or more for stuff from China anyway.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 07, 2015, 04:30:44 PM
They are finally at the truck depot in Asheville.  I'm getting them in the morning and unless the creek rises I'll start shipping tomorrow.  thanks for your patience and for those who haven't ordered yet...

COME AND GET 'EM
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 08, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
I have all the orders that have been paid for packed and ready to ship in the morning.

There are plenty more for those who are interested.

Thanks
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on October 08, 2015, 05:22:27 PM
I'll be along in the next day r two.
;)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on October 08, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Got it done. Paypal sent for 4.
:)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Double Ott on October 09, 2015, 12:15:58 PM
Mike, Wilderbeast really is offering a sweet deal. I just got "The BUDxx Catalog" ( the one that's full junk knives and cheap fantasy knives ).

They have a dead ringer called a Speedy Stitcher (same name as Mike's) selling for $16.99 plus shipping. Mike is offering one for $7.49 plus shipping or buy 4 or more for $6.99 each, with shipping included.

Thanks, Mike.

Tom
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 10, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Mike, Wilderbeast really is offering a sweet deal. I just got "The BUDxx Catalog" ( the one that's full junk knives and cheap fantasy knives ).

They have a dead ringer called a Speedy Stitcher (same name as Mike's) selling for $16.99 plus shipping. Mike is offering one for $7.49 plus shipping or buy 4 or more for $6.99 each, with shipping included.

Thanks, Mike.

Tom

Thanks for your comments Tom, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: wolfy on October 10, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
Christmas is just around the corner.....I'll take 4, Mike.  You've already been paid! O:-)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 10, 2015, 12:22:58 PM
Christmas is just around the corner.....I'll take 4, Mike.  You've already been paid! O:-)

Craig,

They are boxed, labeled and will be in the mail on Monday.  The post office closes early on Saturday.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pommie on October 13, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
received today and even better they came with 3 needles and not 2 as they came with a smaller needle for fine work. Saw these in Micheal's on the weekend for $20 a piece. Better bargain here
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on October 13, 2015, 08:01:15 PM
Rec'd today(Tues.).


Thanks for the cost savings & speedy delivery!
:thumbsup:


  I appreciate your extra thought in making sure how things worked out. I admire the space saving packaging filler... ;)  Beats bubble wrap or foam peanuts all to heck.
;D


Everything is good! Thanks Mike!
;)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 14, 2015, 06:07:41 AM
received today and even better they came with 3 needles and not 2 as they came with a smaller needle for fine work. Saw these in Micheal's on the weekend for $20 a piece. Better bargain here

Thanks for pointing out the third needle, I completely missed it when I was checking one out prior to listing them.

Rec'd today(Tues.).


Thanks for the cost savings & speedy delivery!
:thumbsup:


  I appreciate your extra thought in making sure how things worked out. I admire the space saving packaging filler... ;)  Beats bubble wrap or foam peanuts all to heck.
;D


Everything is good! Thanks Mike!
;)

JB,

I thought you would appreciate the packing material more than a handful of foam peanuts.  8)

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: insaneh on October 14, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Got mine yesterday also.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: PetrifiedWood on October 14, 2015, 10:09:40 AM
Mine showed up either today, or yesterday, but I only made it to the post office today.

First impression is WOW! These are so much better than the ones Tandy Leather sells. They have a solid, heavy feeling. The wood handle is more hard and dense than the Tandy version. The thread bobbin is steel instead of plastic. The knurled collet is a nice big one that you can tighten by hand instead of needing a wrench.

These are a "10" compared to Tandy's "5", in my opinion. I've stitched a lot of stuff together with a Tandy Awl, and this design addresses a lot of the complaints I had using the old one. The thread tension post is a great addition.

The Tandy needles will not fit this stitcher, however, so if you break a needle you will have to find them elsewhere. This isn't really a big deal, because it is unlikely you will ever break a needle, but it's worth mentioning.

They come with 3 needles each, for different applications, which store inside little pockets under the collet. They also came with a full page instruction sheet. The Tandy version has no instructions, so you are on your own if you don't already know how to use one.

Anyhow, I'm very pleased with these. If you think you might want to get into leather work or modding your own packs and web gear, this is a tough deal to pass up.

Here are a few pictures.

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Product%20reviews/IMG_20151014_100201.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Product%20reviews/IMG_20151014_100241.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff485/ThePetrifiedwood/Product%20reviews/IMG_20151014_100316.jpg)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on October 14, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
  I have not ever used anything like this, but want to try , so that is why I wanted at least one, & I plan to share the others as gifts. So, I was thinking... It might be a good idea if someone who is familiar with them to start a topic , or (maybe even here in this topic), explaining some of the tips & tricks on using these, or a "tutorial" type topic. ;) hint hint...
 ;D


  Just one example of my ignorance is the difference between the small, large & "offset tip" ?? needles uses... ???

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: wsdstan on October 14, 2015, 11:54:56 AM
I will post a video in another thread.  I have used them enough to sew up stuff and will mention a couple of things.

It is posted in DIY and Homemade Gear.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Icepick15 on October 14, 2015, 10:27:15 PM
My Stitchers and other stuff showed up today.  It's like my birthday all over again every time a package shows up from Wilderbeast.  Thanks again, Mike.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pommie on October 15, 2015, 06:41:50 AM
I found out one thing you don't want to do with one of these and that is to push it into your palm, it is not the needle that hurts but pulling the string back through is a (http://bladesandbushcraft.com/Smileys/krystl-white/censored.gif). Sorry but no pictures as i was to busy cursing
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Unknown on October 15, 2015, 07:00:04 AM
aww ouch, crikey.

---------

Seems to me if you were to clamp the edge between a couple of slats right at the stitch line it might be easier to handle the thin stuff.

I dont know for sure- the material might slip around. If it would stay put, you could position it so you were looking down the edge with left and right on each side doing their thing. Myriad ways to hold the jig in place and could mark stitch spacing on the edge.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 15, 2015, 08:31:37 PM
bump, plenty left.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Quenchcrack on October 16, 2015, 04:34:07 AM
aww ouch, crikey.

---------

Seems to me if you were to clamp the edge between a couple of slats right at the stitch line it might be easier to handle the thin stuff.

I dont know for sure- the material might slip around. If it would stay put, you could position it so you were looking down the edge with left and right on each side doing their thing. Myriad ways to hold the jig in place and could mark stitch spacing on the edge.
t

Google "Stitching Pony".  Easy to make.  In fact Dave Canterberry has a video on it.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Unknown on October 16, 2015, 07:42:44 AM
i know what a stitching pony is but I'll probably check out DC's version-Thanks

I posted in the wrong thread too sorry.
I watched the vid and it shows a couple problems I imagined. The leather has to be elevated in the SP for the awl, hand. The holes are pre punched. using the slats, the idea was to establish a stitch line right at the wood edge, a thin slat so the awl and needle have clearance to work, and could be clamped tightly to hold the thin edges of any length without repositioning, or need to tug / hold the leather with off hand to make the punctures. It might not work, but in my head it works better than a pony for sewing thin stuff.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 16, 2015, 08:03:22 AM
Guys,

There is a thread here

http://bladesandbushlore.com/index.php?topic=11882.msg220962#new (http://bladesandbushlore.com/index.php?topic=11882.msg220962#new)

to discuss the uses of the speedy stitcher.  I would ask that comments not directly related to the purchase of them be made there.

That way we can get all the useful information in one place.

Thanks
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 16, 2015, 09:39:12 AM
I am offering Speedy Stitchers at what I believe is the lowest price on the internet.

If you find a lower price in stock online, pm me with a link and I'll beat it.

Here's the deal;


 $7.49 each plus shipping OR buy 4 or more for $6.99 with free shipping

Order 12 or more for $6.49 each with free shipping.



And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.


This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.


Product Description:
Kit includes the awl, a heavy duty straight and curved needle, a fine needle, a bobbin with 14 yards of heavy duty waxed thread and instructions- all 100% made in the USA.


(http://firefabricsdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/speedystitcher_main.jpg)

The Speedy Stitcher is a must have for every homestead, deployment kit, household tool box and more- you can sew heavy duty canvas, nylon and other fabrics. Use it to repair all kinds of stuff- even Jeep tops- or to sew custom gear.
                                                                         
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on October 21, 2015, 09:49:25 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on November 02, 2015, 06:15:03 AM
I am offering Speedy Stitchers at what I believe is the lowest price on the internet.

If you find a lower price in stock online, pm me with a link and I'll beat it.

Here's the deal;


 $7.49 each plus shipping OR buy 4 or more for $6.99 with free shipping

Order 12 or more for $6.49 each with free shipping.



And how about a Kid's Group Special, anyone buying 12 for their Scout troop, 4-H or other kids group will pay only $66.99 shipped to you.

That comes to just $5.58 each to your door.


This is a Kid's Only special price.  I saw on the BSA website they are getting $19.99 each for the same Stitcher.


Product Description:
Kit includes the awl, a heavy duty straight and curved needle, a bobbin with 14 yards of heavy duty waxed thread and instructions- all 100% made in the USA.


(http://firefabricsdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/speedystitcher_main.jpg)

The Speedy Stitcher is a must have for every homestead, deployment kit, household tool box and more- you can sew heavy duty canvas, nylon and other fabrics. Use it to repair all kinds of stuff- even Jeep tops- or to sew custom gear.
                                                                       
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on November 21, 2015, 06:05:03 AM
Still plenty available.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Aven on November 28, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
WB, mind if I take one off your hands?
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on November 28, 2015, 02:00:30 PM
WB, mind if I take one off your hands?

Not at all, PM sent.

Lots of speedy stitchers left folks.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on November 28, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
  Mike, I will buy Avens & take three more for me to make the 4 for $6.49 each, if Aven will pay the separate shipping to Avens address for the 1, & my 3 come to me. I plan to buy one of the Mickey mouse boots that ya have on the Black sale & I figure the tools will fit into the boots. Just stuff them into the boots & I will still pay the shipping . Win for everyone. Right?
 :)


Merry Xmas to Aven!
:)


Mike,  If this offer is too late. I will still talk to ya about the tools & the boots per PM.
;)

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on November 28, 2015, 05:47:45 PM
  Mike, I will buy Avens & take three more for me to make the 4 for $6.49 each, if Aven will pay the separate shipping to Avens address for the 1, & my 3 come to me. I plan to buy one of the Mickey mouse boots that ya have on the Black sale & I figure the tools will fit into the boots. Just stuff them into the boots & I will still pay the shipping . Win for everyone. Right?
 :)


Merry Xmas to Aven!
:)


Mike,  If this offer is too late. I will still talk to ya about the tools & the boots per PM.
;)

JB, PM on the way

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Sarge on November 28, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
Very classy, JB!


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Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Aven on November 28, 2015, 08:00:17 PM
Thank you JB.  That was a gracious offer, unfortunately, I've already paid for it.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: MnSportsman on November 29, 2015, 08:00:38 AM
 It was just meant to spread some of the Christmas spirit.
:)


I still plan to get some more stitchers for gifts & the pair of boots.
:)

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on November 29, 2015, 08:22:19 AM
It was just meant to spread some of the Christmas spirit.
:)


I still plan to get some more stitchers for gifts & the pair of boots.
:)

JB,

You are a diamond in the rough.  Not everyone sees the shine.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on January 31, 2016, 07:01:49 AM
Just a bump for the New Year.  Prices as posted above.
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pete28 on February 07, 2016, 04:48:16 AM
Hey Mike so I would be looking at around $28 for 4 of them? Also I am going to check with our areas District head honcho for the boyscout group to see if they would be interested. That may take a bit of time though :)
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on February 07, 2016, 05:31:46 AM
Hey Mike so I would be looking at around $28 for 4 of them? Also I am going to check with our areas District head honcho for the boyscout group to see if they would be interested. That may take a bit of time though :)

Pete,
Yes 4 comes to $27.96 shipped to you.  And that group price for scouts is still good too.

Thanks

Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: pete28 on February 07, 2016, 05:34:02 AM
Thanks Mike I'll get back with you when income tax comes in

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Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Heater on February 12, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
Just a bump for the New Year.  Prices as posted above.

I'd be interested in 4, just not sure how to order -- by PM?
Title: Re: Speedy Stitchers Sale thread
Post by: Wilderbeast on February 12, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
Just a bump for the New Year.  Prices as posted above.

I'd be interested in 4, just not sure how to order -- by PM?
I'll send you a PM.  Thanks