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Bushlore Topics => DIY and Homemade Gear => Topic started by: upthecreek on January 17, 2017, 05:33:45 PM

Title: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 17, 2017, 05:33:45 PM
Note picture

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2140.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2140.jpg.html)

You guys remember tent.

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I want to get the stove working in the tent. Here is the unit. I screwed together 3 pieces of pipe I have an elbow and I need to fashion a stove jack for the tent. A safe platform it will need too.  First I'm going to hit you with the stove questions. I appreciate our members input. Usually.

  :cheers:

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I'm going to burn wood so I figure I need some sort of grate to go on the inner diameter of the center piece of the stove.

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This is assembled. I sure dont want my fire burning on the bottom. I'm figuring I fill the bottom with about an inch of sand, put a fairly fine grate in it, keep fire off floor, get a damper for the pipe.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2142.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2142.jpg.html)

Here are the numbers off the front.

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I got to 4x6 rugs. That will make a 8x6 floor for a 9x7 tent. The white roll is what I;m thinking about sewing into the tent as a stove jack. We'll get to that later.

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I hope to set the tent up this weekend and wiggle the stove around in it some to try and see where I want to place the jack.

Thanks

Creek


Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Orbean on January 17, 2017, 05:43:49 PM
Neat, looking forward to your following posts to see how it all works out
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 17, 2017, 05:52:52 PM
Are you figuring on putting the jack in the wall or the roof?  Fiberglass jack?
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 17, 2017, 06:09:14 PM
Are you figuring on putting the jack in the wall or the roof?  Fiberglass jack?

I'm thinking it going to have to go through the roof. (I have a nifty idea in mind) Sides are too low, front and rear are flaps. I can find few pictures of these with stoves in them. We are a few steps from the stove jack wolfy.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 17, 2017, 06:15:06 PM
I have the grate that belongs in there. it keeps the fire up 8" or so off the bottom. The ashes fall through into the lower portion.

My stove bottom rotted out. The top isn't much better.  I can send it to you if you want it. It's heavy and in good shape because it's been inside.

Keep the fire small, that will be a lot of stove.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: crashdive123 on January 17, 2017, 06:16:15 PM
It looks like it will be awesome.  On the other hand.........I broke out the battery operated fan for a trip this weekend. :shrug:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 17, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
You are right xj. Plenty of stove. That's why I think a damper will be important. A cool grate would be a good thing.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on January 17, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
Cool progress so far with the stove, and glad a grate became available.   I'm struggling with the idea of cutting a hole in the roof, mainly because I spent so much time in those tents with our Scout kids, and knowing how scarce they're becoming.  It seems you could fashion a larger short section to sleeve the stovepipe and run it out the side flaps.  You never know what the future may hold for that tent and what you could possibly want to do with it.  I suppose I'm just playing the devil's advocate.

Two or three pavers will keep the bottom off the deck you built, so that's no biggie.  I'm guessing the idea is mainly to have a heat source as you sit in the tent, seems like you didn't have overnight plans for it.  I can't remember on that one.  But as the weather warms enough to not need the stove, but still have the tent up, are you going to have to cover the hole from the stove jack?

Don't mean to sound negative by any means at all....just thinking out loud I guess.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with and how well you like that stove!!
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 18, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
I'm with you  Dano. I'd hate to see it cut. The stack should come out between the doors at the center of the peak.

Well, I wouldn't bore a 4" hole through that tree. Hmmm,,.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Unknown on January 18, 2017, 07:48:51 AM
Do you think a piece of cement board and some basic framing would be a good way to run the pipe out the back?
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: imnukensc on January 18, 2017, 08:41:26 AM
I like where you're going with this, Creek, but honestly if it were me, I'd use one of these.  Don't have to compromise the integrity of the tent, no mess/ashes to clean up, wood to cut/haul, etc.  I'm pretty lazy and this seems in keeping with the KISS principle.

http://www.mrheater.com/15-000-btu-single-tank-top-heater.html
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 18, 2017, 10:15:59 AM
Yeah, I have to agree with nuke......much easier to control the heat and no worries about having to compromise the integrity of the tent with the propane.  That old G.I. stove definitely has a cool factor and I understand the desire for a traditional wood burning stove, but the disadvantages outweigh the advantages IMHO. :-\
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 18, 2017, 10:31:19 AM
Relax guys, I haven't cut the tent yet. I won't hesitate to do it if I take the notion though. My goal is the most relaxing atmosphere as possible. A wood fire is choice number 1 for me. Being as I have everything I need for that, That's the set course.
 :tent:

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hunter63 on January 18, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
That is a lot of stove for a tent that size....

Looks like the Milsurp diesel drip heater?

I gonna guess this is more for sitting around and enjoying the outdoors than staying in over night?

My wall tent was 12X 13...and a 3 Dog Stove was a little much.
http://fourdog.com/three-dog-dx-camp-stove/

Problem is that it it gets too hot or about the time it gets comfortable....It's ready to go out.
We used charcoal for over night,.... dampened down.

That stove is missing the grate, for sure.... suggest a fairly heavy grate as thin grates burn thru quickly..added one in my box stove, in the garage...made from 1/4 key stock....this one now is 3/8in.

Sand in bottom good,... fire brick better... hard to find thin and round(curved) brick.

My stove jack was in the roof....think the panel for cutout is Nomex.

Had a panel like this and has a cover...works very well.....used it for 10 years of Rondy and outfitters camp tent.
 http://www.springvalleylodges.com/misc-canvas-items.html#Stove Hole Liner Kit

Near bottom of the page......From Spring Valley Lodges....they have made several of my tents.

My newer wall tent is only 8X10 ....so have gone to a Mr Heater as well.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 18, 2017, 11:39:20 AM
I believe that is the older M-1941 not the newer H-45.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wsdstan on January 18, 2017, 11:52:09 AM
i used a Mr. Heater in my duck blind for years.  They work pretty well but have zero ambiance and ain't worth spit for toasting marshmallows.  Cutting a hole for a jack isn't going to ruin the tent, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 18, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
I just think that it's a pretty large wood stove with a shape that's going to take up a lot of space in a tent that size.......and they do make a Mr. Heater-type propane unit that swivels for cooking eggs, bacon AND marshmallows! :lol:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 18, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
This stove isn't much bigger than a grill tank. Bout the same height, stove is 16 wide, tank is 12.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2155.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2155.jpg.html)

I'm not asking for advice on choosing a stove. This is whats going to be the tent heater. I want to insure I don't miss something stupid as I move forward. I'm going to burn a fire in it this weekend with it vented through the flaps. We'll go from there.

If I do decide to vent through the canvas, I will cut this tent without reservation so be ready for it if I do so. I'm not committed however and I may find venting through the flaps is doable.

I can't wait to sit down there by that warm stove with a cold beer.

 :cheers:

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 18, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
I thought it looked bigger than that in the earlier pictures. :-[ :-X
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 18, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
That white liner might allow for the flaps to drape around the pipe that goes through the flaps. I think it's rated @ 800 degrees and I have 24 inches of it to wrap it with. Might be a thought.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on January 18, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Creek, I gotta apologize for starting the derail on this. 

I think your heater idea is awesome and I can certainly see why you folks would want one.   You have a great view and nothing would be better than sitting there with a coffee, watching the rain come down or the fog blow out, and having a heater to knock the chill off.  I think it's a great idea!!

I also need to shut my mouth when it comes to things like this.  Cutting a hole in the top keeps with tradition of most wood stoves and dadgummit, it's YOUR tent!!

I'm still looking forward to seeing what you come up with, REGARDLESS of how you do it!!
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 18, 2017, 07:10:24 PM
Thanks Dan. On we go. Another issue was finding a damper for the 4 inch pipe. We have a Ferguson Supply, Airco, Lowes, a private home center, and a true value and no one had one. I ordered one off ebay that will be here after the test flight. The devil is always in the details. I need a cap for the pipe too.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: lgm on January 18, 2017, 07:32:31 PM
If you put ssnd in the bottom how will you get the ash out?
Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 18, 2017, 07:44:06 PM
If you put ssnd in the bottom how will you get the ash out?
Or am I missing something?

It will hold about an inch of sand at the bottom of the opening for the clean out

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hunter63 on January 18, 2017, 08:27:46 PM
If you put ssnd in the bottom how will you get the ash out?
Or am I missing something?

Some sand comes out with the ash......spread both on garden
Sand is cheap...just add new sand.......?
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 19, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
Well. I did find the grate. I also found a wood chuck moved into my shed. Big hole along one wall and he buried a bunch of tools and parts that were on the floor. I like wood chucks, like little bears. Might have to shoot this one though.

So a Little rusty. I will give it an evapo rust soak, or vinegar. It is very thick steel and it still works fine. Do you have the tool? There was a rod that hooks into this to open and close or shake the grate.

I'll send it out Monday and add the milk weeds stuff too.

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Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wsdstan on January 19, 2017, 01:30:33 PM
That is a neat grille for that stove.  I was cleaning our stove out this morning.  It has an ash pan underneath the grate and a separate door to get to it.  Could you put a metal pan pan on the sand so most of the ash that goes through the grate can be just lifted out?  The right size frying pan with the handle cut off would work.  An old dutch oven with no lid too.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hunter63 on January 19, 2017, 02:52:40 PM
Congrats

That does look like to correct one......You just saved your self a whole lot of work and money
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 19, 2017, 04:51:55 PM
You are the man xj! Thank you. I have no other tools but that's ok. I made a bandaid for it today. I'll post shortly.

Thanks again  :cheers:

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 19, 2017, 05:09:29 PM
I got some things done today. I had to go to Lowes. I got a 16 x 16 paver for the stove to sit on.  4 bux wasn't too bad. I found some junk at work to make me a grate for the weekend try out. So far so good.

Here is my grate. It is some shelving that was tossed.

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Here is the set up as I intend to install it. Tin pan to catch wayward sparks, brick foundation, stove.

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I need to get another elbow and click together one more piece of pipe and I think we are golden.

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Gonna burn it all off in the yard Saturday morning,

Creek

Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 19, 2017, 05:59:53 PM
It's startin' to look like a real woodstove, now.....I like the paver & pan idea, too! :thumbsup:

Going to use a flint & steel for the christening burn? :shrug: :camp:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on January 19, 2017, 07:23:13 PM
Man oh man, now that's coming right along Creek!!  Can't wait to hear how the first burn goes.  The other thing that came to mind....don't know if you're a coffee drinker or not, but one of those blue enameled coffee pots would be right at home sitting on the top of that stove, ready to refill your cups as you sit back and relax...inside the tent....in the warmth.....now that's gotta be a little like heaven right there!!!!   :thumbsup: :camp:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 19, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
I like the way you think Dan. Tea or beer for me but some decoration might be in order. As long as I don't burn it down I'm gonna be smiling..

 :fire1:

Wolfy, I've done thought about the flint & steel for the burn off. I might video it.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 20, 2017, 05:25:40 PM
I got my other elbow, put 1 more piece of pipe together (have 4 assembled) and got my cap. Can't wait to burn it off in the morning and set the tent back up. I think the pipe will run from the side away from the tree.

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Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: NewEnglandBushcraft on January 20, 2017, 06:42:54 PM
That tent looks a lot like the old Boy Scout wall tents....in any case, it sure looks awesome in that light forest green colour  8)
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 20, 2017, 07:08:35 PM
That tent looks a lot like the old Boy Scout wall tents....in any case, it sure looks awesome in that light forest green colour  8)

It has Boy Scout written right on the front of it!

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/tree%20house/100_6220.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/tree%20house/100_6220.jpg.html)

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Unknown on January 20, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
I like the fit of the tent inside the deck, also see some kind of awesome looking chair in the back. Never noticed those before. Happy hot tenting.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 21, 2017, 05:30:58 PM
I burned off the unit today and got it moved down to the tent.

It was really wet so I actually got a fire burning then put the stove together and just put all the pipe on top so they could burn off. Party just getting started here.

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Didn't take long to get it going.

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Was smelling like hazardous waste at this point.

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Pouted over the empty deck.

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Took about an hour for the new to burn off.

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Got the tent set up in the mean time.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2170.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2170.jpg.html)

Added a level of blocks to the base. Main reason was to get it up a little higher. Rugs weren't the size the guy said they were but I can deal with that.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2172.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2172.jpg.html)

Got my pipe rigged up. Wired it to the tent pole. Seems quite stable.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2173.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2173.jpg.html)

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2175.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2175.jpg.html)

Used the thermal mat around the pipe at the flaps. Jury is still out on how this will become permenant.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2177.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2177.jpg.html)

I think the tin pan will be a handy addition. Helps keeps things a little bit more tidy.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2182.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2182.jpg.html)

Here she is in all here glory. Actually got Karen down there to sit a spell. I'm loving it.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2183.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2183.jpg.html)

Still some tweaking to do. Also have to lay in some wood so I'm not collecting it as I go. Very fun and cozy.

Here is a little video I shoot toward evening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7W_9u_0a-w

 :tent:

Creek



Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hunter63 on January 21, 2017, 05:45:36 PM
Nice.....Thanks for sharing.....Looking good.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: PetrifiedWood on January 22, 2017, 12:00:41 AM
That has got to be one cozy tent on a cold day!

It's really neat to see it all come together. For some reason I thought it was going to be an ammo can stove build before I clicked the thread.  That little.stove is neat! I bet it is plenty of heat no matter how cold it gets.

I guess you are still going to cut a hole for the pipe in order to move the stove back into the tent farther and make it easier to get in and out the front?
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 22, 2017, 02:56:39 PM
I'm still not sure how I'm going to handle the pipe yet. I did start a fire and fiddle with the flap closure some. I used some cord to extend the tie backs some. I wanted to kinda get a feel for the heat transfer off the pipe.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2188.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2188.jpg.html)

The flaps were about 4 inches off the pipe I guess. Heat was not an issue it seemed. It was too warm to close the bottom but I think with care You could tighten the end of the tent pretty good without fear of burning it. The mat works good. Not too crazy about this writing on the inside if the tent. You can see better from this shot how the cord is used.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2195.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2195.jpg.html)

If you wonder why the heck I'm doing this, I want to take this thing out for a real winter camp test. Probably not till next year though.

Reason #2

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2189.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2189.jpg.html)

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 22, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
What's wrong with you, creek......didn't you see the plainly posted warning?  :shocked: :doh:

Seriously, though......I think you're on the right track with tying the flaps up the way you did. :thumbsup:   A more permanent workable solution will probably occur to you some evening as you sit there in the warm tent thinking it all over. 
                                                               :tent:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wsdstan on January 22, 2017, 10:20:48 PM
In looking at the photos; what is holding up that pipe that is anchored to the tree and holding up the tent ridge?  It looks like it attaches to the pipe but I don't see how the pipe is holding it up given the geometry.

I think this is coming out really neat.

Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 23, 2017, 04:22:19 AM
The pipe is held up by a steel cable that is extended to an eye up in the tree Stan.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/tree%20house/IMG_1257.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/tree%20house/IMG_1257.jpg.html)

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: NewEnglandBushcraft on January 23, 2017, 05:57:08 AM
:thumbsup: 'Lookin great  8)

Me thinks that you might want to make/buy a stove-jack....only issue there is then you'd have to create a hole through that gorgeous tent :/
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 23, 2017, 07:51:41 AM
I have no experience with a stove jack. I thought it pinched the folded door canvas. If you know the "bathtub" fold for a tarp tent floor corner, I think it's like that. I am pretty sure cutting isn't needed.

I have it all cleaned up. I'll ship it out in a few minutes.



(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/XJ35S/bushcraft/IMG_0180_zpsxeqade3d.jpg)


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Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hayshaker on January 24, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
creek given that isa wood deck you should have somecement fireboard for the floor with at last 6in between stove bottom and
fireboard just saying.anda small fire extingusher. it does look like fun though.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 25, 2017, 06:03:41 PM
I got my grate from xj today!! Thank you Thank you! I had my damper and a little time on my hands....

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Took everything back apart. Got the grate installed.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2199.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2199.jpg.html)

Put the damper in. This is a happy stove.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2201.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2201.jpg.html)

I had wanted to post earlier that one thing I had learned for sure is..... you need gloves to keep this holiday happy. This rascal gets hot.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2204.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2204.jpg.html)

I got all my pipe screwed together and pounded the angles a little so they won't want to move.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2207.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2207.jpg.html)

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2209.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2209.jpg.html)

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_2210.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_2210.jpg.html)

The grate and damper made the stove work a whole bunch better. Now if the weather will cool off a little so I could test it under cold conditions. I'm learning a lot as I use this shelter. 

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 25, 2017, 06:25:35 PM
Here's something I've been meaning to ask, but just kind of forgot about until I saw these last photos.   Do you think that collar wrap would be sufficient insulation to prevent scorching the tent flaps if they were just closed in a normal fashion?  You could probably test it out by building a really hot fire in the stove and just feeling the outside of the collar with your bare hands.........heck, you might not need to do anything else at all! :shrug:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 25, 2017, 06:45:09 PM
We are on the same wave length wolfy. I had it fired pretty good the other night and with the tie back extensions got the flaps pretty close to the pipe and heat was not an issue. A cold day and a stack of knuckle sized wood will help tell the tale. I don't want to cut it any more than you guys want to see me do it...But it has to work and I am going to put this in the "real" woods.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Unknown on January 25, 2017, 06:58:00 PM
It's unlikely to be needed, this is more of a question. If your first vertical pipe was tall enough to bring the horizontal right up to the apex of the flaps... I'm thinking there'd be less heat delivered to the flaps and would be just that much more heat in the tent.

Also, in stove lingo do horizontal and vertical runs of chimney have specific names?

Pretty cool ya got the grate from XJ.

And it's pretty easy to see the advantage of a straight shot through the roof, that being less material to carry along the trail, and there's just a little more heat delivered inside.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on January 26, 2017, 05:08:05 AM
Unknown, I was thinking that too.

If those pipes are the snap closed style, You could open one and cut it to length to reach the apex. The cap would end up a little lower but it all might come together perfectly.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on January 26, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
Having the flaps close around the stack was my thought as well since you have the wrap.  Another couple thoughts I had were, 1: As long as it's not galvanized, you could probably sleeve the section with the wrap if you really had to, to keep the contact heat issue at bay, and  2: Since you probably wouldn't be using the flaps on the stove end (out in the woods), how about a piece of mylar space blanket cut to match the pitch of the roof and having it drop as low as you want/need around the pipe, or even the stove too.  That would help reflect some of the heat back into the tent and maybe help keep the surface heat on that end down as well.  Kinda like a super shelter, but with the added benefit of lowering the temps around the flaps...it might work....
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 26, 2017, 07:23:21 PM
Thanks for your replies guys. 2 thoughts from me which fit into you guys way of thinking.

 I agree with the idea of raising the pipe off the stove. I have 1 section left and can cut it pretty easy. Half of it will probably be about right. I do want to stay 8 inches off the canvas. That's just a number I think will work well. 

I'm leaning more toward using the flap closure. Situating the pipe again will be an improvement.  Keeping the fire proper is the key. I've had her fired up real good twice now and I think staying warm and safe is very doable with this setup. The wrap around the pipe is key and fairly cheap.

I'm searching stove jacks as I post this reply.  :tent:

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Unknown on January 26, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
I've been looking into wood cook stoves, a few days ago watched a vid with some folks who had to set their stove close to an adjacent wall. Initially they protected the wall with Aluminum foil. Later they thought to get something more permanent and got a stainless steel panel. They said it wasn't long before they went back to the foil which worked to keep the wall cool. The heavy SS held heat and would get super hot. I can picture that, but the foil working so well is surprising in some ways.

Just some info that might help or maybe not just for insurance. I also thought of double section, a sleeve, but some crumpled foil might save the day if you go for an extended burn. Maybe you did burn it all day and I missed it.

I thought to mention it in my last post, one thing we onlookers should recall is the jacket you made. My sewing would likely devalue the canvas. As neat as you do it, it would likely increase the value except to a pure BSA collector. :shrug:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on January 27, 2017, 08:04:43 PM
I'm actually going to try and pick up an old fireplace screen to put around it where you come through the flaps. If it fits in half way right it will make the setup safer. I took my last piece of pipe to work with me today to cut it down some so I could extend the pipe out of the stove a little. I forgot to bring it home with me. This weekend, I guess I'll just have to build a fire in it and enjoy it as is. I did order a USGI stove jack last night. So to everyone's enjoyment I can keep pounding this thread. 

:cheers:

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on January 27, 2017, 08:26:09 PM
Perfect opportunity...... :deadhorse: :thumbsup: :lol:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 01, 2017, 02:15:02 PM
Gotta love youtube. Some strange things can be found there. If you find this stove puts out too much heat, try this. It's a multi tea light "stove" for heating and also an Oven attachment.

Kind of cool but not worth it's own thread.

Starts at the 3 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvWUidzPLuc
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 01, 2017, 05:27:35 PM
I like it! We use the same method. However, I think now, in it's present location, I could have my tent and stove set up and we'd all be getting warmer, in the time it takes to watch that vid. I'd have to have my fire prep done though. I can't wait to sleep in this thing. I need to get a fire extinguisher.

Thanks for adding that 

Creek

 
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on February 01, 2017, 05:49:41 PM
Pretty impressive little saw!    What kind was it......anybody know! :shrug:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: crashdive123 on February 01, 2017, 06:04:43 PM
Looks similar to a fixed blade Fiskars, which when I used it in a similar fashion without gloves and my had as close as his was caused me to leak and get 12 stitches.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Unknown on February 01, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
I'd guess it to be a type of older grafting saw. Or maybe something like an old school "Handy Saw"

I like this one with the split nuts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-ANTIQUE-VICTORIAN-GRAFTING-SAW-VGC-12-LONG-BLADE-15-1-2-INC-HANDLE-/401261633568?hash=item5d6d0ea020:g:BakAAOSwal5YMG8v

His blade looks a different shape. His hand hold makes me think it's an open grip like this, or maybe just "straight" had to look again.... looks like a straight grip.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on February 01, 2017, 06:31:43 PM
Whatever it was, it chewed through that branch in a hurry! :chopwood:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 02, 2017, 04:27:17 PM
http://www.garrettwade.com/arborists-undercut-saw.html
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on February 02, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
That's what it looks like......Thanks, xj! :cheers:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 02, 2017, 05:34:30 PM
I think I'm going to keep beating this dead horse. LOL. This looks way more feasible than the tara cotta pot heater.

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/XJ35S/3b73f811c3af82958ab1fc9043976699_zpsy4nzdkap.jpg)
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 02, 2017, 05:40:40 PM
Tent stoves are cool. I bet the tin can is warm. My neighbor has been in the tent once and yesterday met me with a big bag of 6 inches stick he picked up out of his yard and saved for me. Tent stoves are cool. Mine works good so far.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hayshaker on February 02, 2017, 08:44:13 PM
creek; given the fact that the tent is canvas,
and the heat that can be generated from the stove&pipe,
you may want to use a double walled chimney pipe
for safety and yes a large fire extingusher,
i say large due to the fact that the whole area around you is coverd
with dry leaves. as in the picture of the turkeys rooting around,
what does the MFG of the stove suggest,
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 03, 2017, 03:45:41 AM
If he burns it up, I can see him loading up the big Chevy with pallets. Then building a micro cabin with a loft ! i mean the floor is done already so.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 08, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
Hate to do it to you guys but I took a photo in low light with new cam so I'm posting it up so I can compare to my other crappy pics.

Home sweet home in very low light.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/IMG_4092.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/IMG_4092.jpg.html)

Oh, and I have no intention of burning up my tent. I am very careful. Stove jack is in the mail. :)

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wsdstan on February 08, 2017, 05:03:54 PM
Looks good to me, just like Lulu.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: crashdive123 on February 09, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
Not a crappy pic at all.  Looks like heaven.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on February 09, 2017, 06:27:37 PM
Not a crappy pic at all.  Looks like heaven.

+1, I was just thinking the same thing!
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 09, 2017, 07:05:24 PM
Thanks guys. It is a good place. Lost a big pine near it in the wind today. I hope its twin beside it that is leaning comes on down tonight before the wind stops blowing. I'll post a pic.

 :deadhorse:

Creek

Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: hayshaker on February 11, 2017, 07:02:38 PM
looks like hohe sweet home.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 12, 2017, 08:53:21 AM

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/XJ35S/3b73f811c3af82958ab1fc9043976699_zpsy4nzdkap.jpg)

I've gone back and looked at this article several times now and I think I'm going to build one. I have a small tarp tent I made some years ago and I bet it would be the shizzle in it. Thanks for posting xj. I like the date on it too.

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 20, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
I have too many projects, not close to completed. I spend too much time researching stuff on you tube.

My thinking today is making  my nesting cooking setup into also a tent heater. I'm thinking about a very small barb fitting on the edge of my trangia and an I.V. Flow valve connected to a water bottle hung upside down to feed the trangia. Maybe get an 8 hour burn out of it. And have it set up something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPSd5tFab8



Another cool setup mostly for boats is the heat pal, much like that photo I shared. uses 1.25quart of denatured alcohol. Expensive though and doesn't cook well...

http://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_3/chandlery/Alcohol-Heater-Stove_5894-1.html

http://www.mansfieldoutdoors.com/tent-stoves/alcohol-stove/
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: upthecreek on February 23, 2017, 04:29:57 PM
Still camera testing. Been too hot to think about firing up the heater. We have had some nasty weather and it has all weathered well.

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/tottaway/treehouse2016/139B6250.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/tottaway/media/treehouse2016/139B6250.jpg.html)

Creek
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: Dano on February 23, 2017, 07:00:16 PM
I was thinking of you today Creek, I stopped in a surplus store down the road and saw one those military gas fuel heaters.
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: lodge camper on March 01, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
i really like that deck for your  tent. what a view that must be.
we have a couple of those wood stoves. like them alot. you can toss some nice chunks of wood in there.
we use one in our tipi with only 4ft of stove pipe. the smoke draws the rest of the way out and never smokey inside, great for cooking on too.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/343g6bn.jpg)
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 10, 2018, 12:39:25 PM
I have too many projects, not close to completed. I spend too much time researching stuff on you tube.

My thinking today is making  my nesting cooking setup into also a tent heater. I'm thinking about a very small barb fitting on the edge of my trangia and an I.V. Flow valve connected to a water bottle hung upside down to feed the trangia. Maybe get an 8 hour burn out of it. And have it set up something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inPSd5tFab8



Another cool setup mostly for boats is the heat pal, much like that photo I shared. uses 1.25quart of denatured alcohol. Expensive though and doesn't cook well...

http://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_3/chandlery/Alcohol-Heater-Stove_5894-1.html (http://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_3/chandlery/Alcohol-Heater-Stove_5894-1.html)

http://www.mansfieldoutdoors.com/tent-stoves/alcohol-stove/ (http://www.mansfieldoutdoors.com/tent-stoves/alcohol-stove/)


Well, Well, Well, Lookee what I found by accident on e-bay. Notice all the holes for the draft of air to heat and get out. It seems too simple. Denatured alcohol is wood alcohol right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hot-Ter-Heater-Camping-Hunting-Emergency-Bucket-Pail-Seat-Ice-Fishing-/183034887888 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hot-Ter-Heater-Camping-Hunting-Emergency-Bucket-Pail-Seat-Ice-Fishing-/183034887888)

(https://i.imgur.com/gwVRg14.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/o9a79aU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tpmW2Lr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JDAV2B0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PH5v9os.jpg)
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on February 10, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
We have a HUGE denatured alcohol plant about 9 miles from here, but we call it ethanol......made from corn-squeezin's! :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: xj35s on February 10, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
As do I.

http://www.sunocoethanol.com/about/fulton-plant
Title: Re: Tent Heater build along
Post by: wolfy on February 10, 2018, 03:09:25 PM
Ours uses supplemental methane gas, which comes as a by-product from the regional landfill, to heat the mash and distill the alcohol.  Pretty cool! 8)

http://siouxcityjournal.com/business/local/siouxland-ethanol-approves-m-expansion-to-further-boost-production/article_e20131e4-72bd-5024-80fb-358a5deab96e.html


I bought a little catalytic style heater that runs off those green propane bottles that always seem to be on sale at Walmart.  It sure made life a lot more pleasant in the deer blind when it's in the low-teens or single digits outside.  I sit on a stool with it between my feet and a poncho made from an old army blanket with a hole for my head to poke through in the center.  No odor that I OR the deer can detect because I've had them within a couple of feet of the blind and they didn't seem at all aware there was anything amiss.  :shrug:     

Very toasty setup. :fire2: