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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by hayshaker on April 14, 2021, 11:54:27 AM »
onething i'd stop eating store bought bread or make my own strore wheat.
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by boomer on April 14, 2021, 07:36:26 AM »
We live in interesting times. Large scale change is often upsetting and rapid change often leads to chaos. While recognizing there is a certain perspective the few remaining active participants share it's also likely helpful to consider different ideas.

Folks can recognize problems and choose to do something or they can sit on the sidelines and whine . . . and everything in between. Personally, I want to know what causes the winds before arguing about which way they're blowing. To attempt that however, requires fact not just rehashing nonsensical "talking points".

Prepping in general makes as much sense as a winter coat - much appreciated when needed. How one preps is up tp them but it just seems responsible to me. A lot of the scenarios surrounding prepping however fall more in the (poorly) made for TV category than in real life.

As an example , more the 20 years ago major multidisciplinary conferences were held discussing pandemics and epidemics.  While there were differences of opinions there was unanimous consensus that sooner rather than later we'd be hit. The factual evidence was simply impossible for reasonable people to ignore.

Similarly, more than 25 years ago my partner at the time, a physicist specializing in atmospheric chemistry, was involved in international modeling of what is now known as Climate Change. Here again, the facts were simply impossible for reasonable people to ignore.

If folks recognize the benefit of planning for winter by getting a good winter coat they might also realize the best place to get one is not a store that only sells flip flops or take advice from someone who denies winter exists. That's not preparation, that's something else altogether.

So it goes. Some folks still refuse to accept fact for whatever reason but that approach in no way extends to the point where others ae obligated to board the same sinking vessel. Each is entitled to their say as long as it goes both ways.





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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by boomer on April 14, 2021, 06:59:20 AM »

  The major fly buzzing around my head is that all of the scary stuff is coming from different directions and almost all at the same time,  we find ourselves in a serious health pandemic,  a political up evil, and a looming economic disaster, we are loosing our Constitutional rights in rapid fire ever since the first of the year when this weaponized Chinese Flu was released on the world and all of this country's governors and mayors with a socialist bent decided to lock down businesses and restrict our movements.
 It getting so bad that I almost forgot about the riots, burning, looting, and violence of the major cities here in our country,  "they" call them protests,  but it's becoming more apparent that they were organized and staged for the express reason of creating confusion and fear.
 Tell me,  I was under the impression that we were pretty much past systemic racism in this country,  and now within a few months it's become a political game changer, what's happened to our world ?
 This week your President stated that your Constitution and the rights that it is supposed to protect is not absolute, he changed the meaning of our language, did you know that he's going to be spending another multi trillion dollars on infrastructure,  well that's not bad, fixing our roads and bridges while putting a few million Americans back to work is a good thing,  but wait, since he and "they" changed the meaning of the word infrastructure it no longer means roads and bridges or the electric grid,  what it refers to in todays new political language is all the government agencies charged with telling us what to do,  it means all the "new" immigrants flooding our boarders,  it means infusing poorer countries with billions of dollars in Aid, it means funding abortion clinics in third world countries.
 I guess I'm getting carried away again,  so,  we're loosing our rights, we will soon loose control over our currency and our personal economic freedom,  we're loosing our rights to own property,  we are restricted in our movements, being forced to get vaccinated, we're about to be forced to have a chip implanted in our bodies,  and forced to wear a mark proving that we have been vaccinated or face being cancelled in our society,  I'm starting to think that we've all fallen into Alice's rabbit hole,  or that I fell asleep in reality and have woken up in a never ending bad dream.       

Again, the irony is almost musing but rather droll. As a litany of contradictions and aberrant "thought" it suceeds. of course, I;n just taking things at face value so maybe the jokes on me.
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by Moe M. on April 14, 2021, 06:25:14 AM »

  The major fly buzzing around my head is that all of the scary stuff is coming from different directions and almost all at the same time,  we find ourselves in a serious health pandemic,  a political up evil, and a looming economic disaster, we are loosing our Constitutional rights in rapid fire ever since the first of the year when this weaponized Chinese Flu was released on the world and all of this country's governors and mayors with a socialist bent decided to lock down businesses and restrict our movements.
 It getting so bad that I almost forgot about the riots, burning, looting, and violence of the major cities here in our country,  "they" call them protests,  but it's becoming more apparent that they were organized and staged for the express reason of creating confusion and fear.
 Tell me,  I was under the impression that we were pretty much past systemic racism in this country,  and now within a few months it's become a political game changer, what's happened to our world ?
 This week your President stated that your Constitution and the rights that it is supposed to protect is not absolute, he changed the meaning of our language, did you know that he's going to be spending another multi trillion dollars on infrastructure,  well that's not bad, fixing our roads and bridges while putting a few million Americans back to work is a good thing,  but wait, since he and "they" changed the meaning of the word infrastructure it no longer means roads and bridges or the electric grid,  what it refers to in todays new political language is all the government agencies charged with telling us what to do,  it means all the "new" immigrants flooding our boarders,  it means infusing poorer countries with billions of dollars in Aid, it means funding abortion clinics in third world countries.
 I guess I'm getting carried away again,  so,  we're loosing our rights, we will soon loose control over our currency and our personal economic freedom,  we're loosing our rights to own property,  we are restricted in our movements, being forced to get vaccinated, we're about to be forced to have a chip implanted in our bodies,  and forced to wear a mark proving that we have been vaccinated or face being cancelled in our society,  I'm starting to think that we've all fallen into Alice's rabbit hole,  or that I fell asleep in reality and have woken up in a never ending bad dream.         
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by crashdive123 on April 14, 2021, 04:15:57 AM »
We have everything here on the farm to survive for a time without any big problems.  My long term worry list has a few things and one of them is inflation.  If it takes off big time then things get shaky quickly. That worries me to a great extent.  I don't want to buy a new wheelbarrow to carry cash to the grocery store.

My Dad grew up in Germany.  The Great Depression hit there harder than most places.  I remember Dad telling me the story of him collecting pennies.  He had collected a wheelbarrow full.  He took them to the store and exchanged them for one loaf of bread. 
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by randyt on April 14, 2021, 04:15:23 AM »
No wheelbarrow needed, just bigger numbers

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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by wsdstan on April 13, 2021, 11:38:31 PM »
We have everything here on the farm to survive for a time without any big problems.  My long term worry list has a few things and one of them is inflation.  If it takes off big time then things get shaky quickly. That worries me to a great extent.  I don't want to buy a new wheelbarrow to carry cash to the grocery store. 
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by wolfy on April 13, 2021, 08:04:27 PM »
Personally, it doesn't make much difference to us.  We are pretty much 'prepped' all of the time.  When you've farmed for most of your life, you tend to be in that camp out of necessity.  Just don't come knockin' at my door without proper B&B credentials or if you find yourself lacking in anything that you should have thought of since......or those essentials that you may have forgotten to include in the first place.   :P

PS....I WILL trade or barter.  :thumbsup:
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General Discussion / Re: Preparing for hard times
« Last post by madmaxine on April 13, 2021, 05:27:04 PM »
Ooooooh Yeeeeeeah.  Started years ago.  I'm working on trade goods right now.  Little things become important.  Not going to list those but...
 
 I cleaned up and reseasoned an old cast iron pot for a good friend.  Now we have a LOT of eggs.
 
They have a huge garden twice a year.  A little help with the gardening work and we always have fresh veggies.  I may have to brush up on my goat milking skill set.

Trading some 300BLK supersonic (I need subsonic) for some ham radio equipment.

Ordered new trotlines today.

Got lotsa pellets for my .22 air rifle.

Always have enough cash on hand to get through that time when nobody really gets it. 

Pretty basic prepping.

ps Oh yeah... heirloom seeds.




 
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General Discussion / Preparing for hard times
« Last post by Moe M. on April 13, 2021, 04:37:55 PM »

 I know that we've discussed a time or two in the past about having an emergency pantry in the event of short term shortages, power outages, or storms such as twisters, hurricanes, blizzards, or earthquakes and such,  in many parts of the country within the last year we've experienced shortages of everything from toilet paper, cleaning supplies, to food products and ammo, most of us were pretty happy that we had well stocked pantries and a closet full of house hold stuff put aside "Just In Case".
 When the pandemic hit the US we all thought ok, another flu, we'll ride it out for a month or so and it'll be over,  well here we are almost a year later and it's still affecting us,  we can't gather,  have to wear stupid masks when in public, some food, and paper goods are still spotty,  professional office waiting rooms still don't have any reading materials, and the stand hear signs are still painted on the floors in most stores and banks.
 Now many items are late making it to stores because some dumb bell parked his boat in the middle of a canal for a couple of weeks,  Yah, I know, don't sweat the small stuff,  but is anyone paying attention to the political environment the new administration is setting us up for, or how many of our civil liberties have been put on hold, how about the presidents declaration this week that the Constitution is not Absolute, just what does that mean ?
 Another question that's troubling,  our economy has been brought to it's knees because of the businesses that were closed by pandemic limitations, the loss of tens of thousands of jobs through closing of the pipe line and restrictions placed on the coal, oil, and natural gas industry, and if that's not bad enough,  the new administration has spent trillions of dollars and is planning trillions and trillions more,  where are all those dollars coming from,  what is backing it up,  funny thing is nobody knows,  I asked the manager at my local bank while making a small deposit this afternoon,  she shook her head and laughed saying,  it's not backed, it's nothing more than monopoly money printed by the Fed as needed and all that's keeping our economic system afloat is low interest rates, higher inflation (soon to go Hyper) and a big IOU with your name on it.
 She explained,  if either one of the legs on this silly stool moves the economy crashes and the dollar stops being the worlds monetary currency,  then what ?
 Pretty scary stuff,  are any one of you making any extra preparations "Just in Case" ?   
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