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ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« on: May 13, 2015, 11:06:33 AM »
If you were ever a Boy Scout and advanced past the rank of Tenderfoot :-[ you, no doubt, learned how to tie the TAUGHTLINE HITCH.   It's a good knot, but the simple variation of it, the ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH, tightens more compactly and is much more resistant to slipping.  If you can't learn how to tie it from Laura's excellent video, there's no hope for you. :P


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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2015, 11:32:08 AM »
thanks. i like that knot
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2015, 11:58:14 AM »
I can tie it, but there is still no hope for me.   >:D
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2015, 01:13:06 PM »
Thanks, Wolfy!
Another hitch begging to be tied "slippery".  ;)
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2015, 01:38:47 PM »
Like Mike there is no hope for me but I can tie that one, at least right now.  Tomorrow?  Who knows?
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2015, 07:58:04 PM »
That's an awesome video. I just learned a new knot


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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2015, 08:53:19 PM »
That's an awesome video. I just learned a new knot


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I'm glad it helped you.....it's a great knot to use for guy lines!   I wish all knot videos were this well made.   If you can view it from the perspective of the person tying it, like this one was made, it becomes very clear and is less confusing to get down correctly in your head. :thumbsup:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2015, 08:53:59 PM »
I agree!


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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2015, 05:33:58 PM »
that's my preffered adjustable hitch.
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 09:46:44 AM »
Great!  always looking for a better knot to keep the tarp snug...thanks!!!

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2015, 10:36:49 AM »
Great!  always looking for a better knot to keep the tarp snug...thanks!!!

You are entirely welcome! :cheers:    I think you'll REALLY like that knot.   It couldn't be easier to tie and it snugs up WAAAAY better than the old taught-line hitch because the last wrap pulls the whole shebang tighter.....somethi ng that can't be said of the taught-line hitch.

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 07:45:11 PM »
Great!  always looking for a better knot to keep the tarp snug...thanks!!!

You are entirely welcome! :cheers:    I think you'll REALLY like that knot.   It couldn't be easier to tie and it snugs up WAAAAY better than the old taught-line hitch because the last wrap pulls the whole shebang tighter.....somethi ng that can't be said of the taught-line hitch.

The Boy Scouts needs to change their knot requirements......L ord knows they're changing everything else! :pissed:
Ain't that the truth about change..not for the better in my opinion. Anyhow just when you think a knot is the best it can be. Someone comes along and adds a turn here and a loop there and walla you have a new and improved knot. i believe this can go on forever 8)

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2015, 05:33:27 PM »
I love this knot... Often used...

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 04:24:46 PM »
I've used this knot for years, always keep my tarp lines tied with the knot and ready to go...makes it very easy to set up a quick shelter. I use it on my tents too.
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 04:34:02 PM »
SEE? :shrug:

You guys that aren't using it, should be!    Lots of us seem to agree that it's a good one! :cheers:     It's really EASIER to tie and tighten than the taughtline hitch.......with WAY BETTER gripping action! :popcorn:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 05:51:30 PM »
Thanks, Wolfy,that looks like a very useful knot and one even I Can tie.  Most knot diagrams look like a snake mating ritual to me.
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 05:52:56 PM »
Glad somebody bumped this thread I have missed it the previous times.

Do agree it seems a better knot in many ways: easy to tie, looks to stay tight when not in use, and the gripping power seems to bite better into the rope to stay taught.

Looking forward to trying this with the slippery amsteel rope and others.

Craig have you tried this one in a slippery style like old philosopher mentioned?
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 07:28:15 PM »
Nobody in their right mind uses cordage like Old Philosopher insists on using, but I have tried to tie friction hitches with that cheap, hard, shiny, translucent, 3-ply stuff that is notoriously difficult to handle and tie knots in.  I have some of it that came on a block & tackle game-hoist that I bought on sale at Sportsman's Guide.  It worked real well ONCE and then it twisted and tangled itself so badly (with no weight on it to keep it straight) that I had to to replace it with some cheap poly-braid from Walmart.   

The original line that came on the game-hoist was stuff that ties ITSELF into knots.....a real labor saver! :lol:    Knots that you intend to tie are very difficult to make secure, but it self-ties into knots it takes a serrated knife to untie!  When securing the line to an anchor in the shed with a deer hanging at skinning height, I usually just do a round turn and two half-hitches, so I don't use the adjustable gripper-hitch with that rope.  It MIGHT work, but I have my doubts......whether it would work with that fancy Amsteel line like you tree-hangars use, I don't know.  However, it works VERY WELL with  that good 3/8" or 1/2" braided line that you buy off the spools at the lumber yards.  That's what I use to tighten the ropes on the ends of the canoe when I secure it to both sides of the bumper, fore & aft on the roof rack.  They hold very well and do not seem to loosen any, but I still check them with a good firm pull every few hours of highway travel.  If there's any slack that develops, it seems to be from line-stretch due to wet weather.....NO knot slippage. 

The reason I don't use a cinch-type knot in securing the canoe is only due to my over-zealous tightening of those kinds of knots.......I once bent the crossbars on a Thule rack by cinching those knots too much! :doh:       Our 18.5' canoe on the roof rack of our VW bus, wouldn't so much as shudder when we'd meet those 18-wheelers in the notorious winds of Montana, though!  :rofl:

EDIT:

I just noticed the other part of your question and YES, I have tied it 'slippery,' but it produces a knot that is not nearly as good as when tied the way the video shows it.  I think that having the two thicknesses of cord going through the bight just gives up too much of the BITE that the knot inherently provides when tied non-slippery.  If the pull isn't too great, then the addition of the slippery loop through the last bight may be worth the convenience it provides.  If a slippery friction hitch is what you need, then I think the FARRIMOND HITCH is the best way to go......it's a little more 'fussy' to tie, but not much. :)

And for the new guys that want to learn how to tie the FARRIMOND HITCH, too...here's the thread on that one, too. :thumbsup:
http://bladesandbushlore.com/index.php?topic=9854.msg184738#msg184738
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2015, 09:59:29 PM »
Holy crap... Look at Wolfy type... He's got "ratchet fingers" goin on...
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Knots... Who uses them nowadays...??


Old timers?
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 Wire ties/cable ties... isn't that the new thing for the modern Bushlore person?


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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 10:34:06 AM »
I'd call that a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black, JB!  :stir:




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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2015, 11:46:02 AM »
Well, I used this very knot to secure a lawn mower to my truck bed this morning.  Held the mower secure all the way to work where I gave it away to one of the men that work for me.  Never said goodbye to it, either. :banana:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2015, 03:25:40 PM »
Wolfy brings up the point of line that will hold a knot, very good "line of discussion"  :D

My favorite, and I know there are a lot of good choices, is good old Kelty Triptease. It is very light weight, has a super strong Spectra core and the sheath is woven nylon that really holds a knot well. It is expensive but lasts a long time and has some reflection in the dark when a light is shined its way. Here is a quick pitch tarp shelter I always take with me for shade or rain and this image was taken last week when a light rain was pitter pattering as we took a break. You can see where the adjustable grip hitch is right in front of the black chair. I like a lot of adjustability for the various ground conditions. The adjustable grip hitch is the only sliding knot I use. The line is attached at the tarp with a buntline hitch. The sliding hitch is just left tied so the only knot I have to make when setting up is the very simple and quick buntline hitch.

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2015, 08:20:41 PM »
I'd call that a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black, JB!  :stir:




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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2015, 08:30:26 PM »
I know you did. :cheers:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 11:00:33 PM »
Nobody in their right mind uses cordage like Old Philosopher insists on using,....

Here I am only gone 3 months, and you're still taking my name in vain.  DAGNABIT!!!

I use whatever cordage is within arms reach at the time.  :P  Like a knife, the only bad one is the one you don't have when you need it.

BTW, I still can't get this hitch to hold up a 35 pound watering can with 20 thirsty chickens wrestling over it.  :rolleyes:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2015, 12:57:47 AM »
Nobody in their right mind uses cordage like Old Philosopher insists on using,....

Here I am only gone 3 months, and you're still taking my name in vain.  DAGNABIT!!!

I use whatever cordage is within arms reach at the time.  :P  Like a knife, the only bad one is the one you don't have when you need it.

BTW, I still can't get this hitch to hold up a 35 pound watering can with 20 thirsty chickens wrestling over it.  :rolleyes:
It was only out of the deepest respect that I used your cordage as an acid test example.......if you could make a knot work with that stuff, you could make it work with anything! :hail:         If I know you (and I do) and you're tying the AGH 'slippery,' it won't have nearly the friction as one tied conventionally, either.    Why don't you just use a cinch knot to hold those chicken waterers......you KNOW they'd work? :shrug:



EDIT:   You'd better come back a little more often than once every 3 months if you expect to protect your status as 'King Blabbermouth!'  >:D  :rofl:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2015, 02:19:27 PM »
Nobody in their right mind uses cordage like Old Philosopher insists on using,....

Here I am only gone 3 months, and you're still taking my name in vain.  DAGNABIT!!!

I use whatever cordage is within arms reach at the time.  :P  Like a knife, the only bad one is the one you don't have when you need it.

BTW, I still can't get this hitch to hold up a 35 pound watering can with 20 thirsty chickens wrestling over it.  :rolleyes:
It was only out of the deepest respect that I used your cordage as an acid test example.......if you could make a knot work with that stuff, you could make it work with anything! :hail:         If I know you (and I do) and you're tying the AGH 'slippery,' it won't have nearly the friction as one tied conventionally, either.    Why don't you just use a cinch knot to hold those chicken waterers......you KNOW they'd work? :shrug:



EDIT:   You'd better come back a little more often than once every 3 months if you expect to protect your status as 'King Blabbermouth!'  >:D  :rofl:

Haha! I see your posts are getting up there. Obviously, retirement has only given you more time to harass people. :)

The cordage where the knot fails is 7 year old cotton clothes line, covered with dust and stiff as #12 electrical wire. Not a fair test for a fancy knot. The waterer is held in place quite well with the venerable bowline (which I tied 'slippery' just to spite you). Haha.

I'm using the AGH on two other feeders held up with bailing twine. Works quite well with that material. Thanks again for bumping this thread.

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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2018, 06:39:47 PM »
Thread Bump:

After using this knot for a while now, I really like that you can tie the knot and leave it it tied on a rope or guy line in my case. I tied the adjustable grip hitch on the four guy lines on my tarp over a year ago and after use on weekends I slacken the hitch to full available length so its easy for the next trip.

Thanks again Wolfy for sharing this knot. One of the other knots that I love is the bowline with the Yosemite tie off that Petrifiedwood shared.
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2018, 07:25:57 AM »
I know this knot is fantastic and no doubt will hold the lawnmower in place. I think I'm going to dump my ratchet straps in lieu of rope.


 I have been using the Becket hitch as I do for my hammock on all the grosgrain webbing tie outs on my tarp. It forgoes the first two wraps. I can pull a little extra tight and allow the slippage as the knot tightens. I'm using 1/8th inch utility ropes of polyester. They haven't slipped in any weather yet.
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2018, 01:45:31 PM »
I use this knot from time to time. Hauled a load today but went with the trucker hitch as I needed the leveraging to keep the load in place. Now that I think about it I could have used the grip hitch & a alpine butterfly to do the same thing. Might have taken a little longer.  :shrug:
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Re: ADJUSTABLE GRIP HITCH
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2018, 03:39:28 PM »
I use this knot from time to time. Hauled a load today but went with the trucker hitch as I needed the leveraging to keep the load in place. Now that I think about it I could have used the grip hitch & a alpine butterfly to do the same thing. Might have taken a little longer.  :shrug:
Check out the Power Cinch.  It's 3x faster than the Trucker's Hitch, and IMO just as powerful. It's my go-to hitch for tying down just about any load, from car top to trailer loads.
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