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Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« on: June 24, 2015, 03:25:31 PM »
My wife got me this blade for Father's Day.  I have one their Jungle Bowies and like it (i'm not a stainless fan, but their 420HC isn't too bad..).  Condor is legendary for QC issues, sometimes you get something great and sometimes not.  If you are going to buy a Condor, I highly recommend Baronyx Knives (you can get a hand picked one for a couple of extra bucks).  So here are a couple of pics:




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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 03:30:12 PM »
Interesting looking knife.  What would you use the hole to do?
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 03:50:38 PM »
Interesting looking knife.  What would you use the hole to do?

Lol - it makes experienced bushlore folks ask questions?  I have no idea, but it shouldn't affect the section modulus strength I guess...  A member here said that this blade is Matt Graham's mods to a Jungle Bowie...

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
Congrats! Looks like fun.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2015, 06:59:39 PM »
Congrats! Looks like fun.

Thanks PW - Its pretty and feels good.  I haven't taken it out for a beating yet, but I will.  I think the folks at Baronyx finish the edges too, its stupid sharp....


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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2015, 07:49:00 PM »
Looks full tang? Might be fun to throw! :) I was wondering about the bushcraft hole too....

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 12:30:44 AM »
I actually like that knife. I think Matt did a good job thinking it through.
Kinda reminds me of a big old hudson bay knife.
The hole could probably be used for sighting a signal flash, if you polished one side of the knife. I dunno.
I especially like that belt tuck sheath. No loop, just tuck it in your belt until the flap catches.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 01:43:37 AM »
Congrats on being a Dad! A good woman is worth her weight in blades. ( a little trivia on why stick tangs are so prominent in Scandinavia)

Am I wrong?  Looking at the JB it is hard to see how to modify one to this shape.  Probably just a misunderstanding on my part. The correct version could be: Graham used a modified JB, and Condor said- hey wanna design a knife? Or I did not look closely enough.

I definitely like the sheath, looks better than I thought, which is a big plus. Too many sheaths are cheap shipping containers.
 Probably if I just used the knife I would like it more. For now it just doesn't quite speak my dialect. I'd rather see a straight forward leaf shape, basically ' cause I know nothing. Like so many other  things I want to see, hold, dicker before I can buy. I just haven't felt the urge to overcome that with this, even though Matt is the most charismatic survival dude yet discovered. Chicks are charmed, dudes instantly  bromanced out the wazoo with this guy. CIA/Google operative, right?

Of course the Vine Ascending Knockout can only be a real plus ...if you have the toe strength.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2015, 10:17:32 AM »
My wife got me this blade for Father's Day.  I have one their Jungle Bowies and like it (i'm not a stainless fan, but their 420HC isn't too bad..).  Condor is legendary for QC issues, sometimes you get something great and sometimes not.  If you are going to buy a Condor, I highly recommend Baronyx Knives (you can get a hand picked one for a couple of extra bucks).  So here are a couple of pics:





    Congrats all the way around,  I'm not a big knife type of guy,  some traditionals are nice to look at,  most tacticals turn me off,  but I think I'd like to give this one a try,  I'm hoping you can give us a follow up field review.

    Thanks for sharing your fathers day gift with us.     :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 10:25:08 AM by Moe M. »
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2015, 12:28:48 PM »
Interesting looking knife.  What would you use the hole to do?

The hole is a trademark. "The Eye of the Condor" as it is called in their catalog. Several of their knives and machetes feature it.
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2015, 12:30:57 PM »
Interesting looking knife.  What would you use the hole to do?

Lol - it makes experienced bushlore folks ask questions?  I have no idea, but it shouldn't affect the section modulus strength I guess...  A member here said that this blade is Matt Graham's mods to a Jungle Bowie...

Matt Graham's knife was indeed a Jungle Bowie that he (or had someone else) modded.
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2015, 04:11:09 PM »
I will post up a field review when I get a few minutes.  Moe - if you want to check it out, shoot me a pm, I'll send it out once I have had a chance to play with it...

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 07:47:25 AM »
I will post up a field review when I get a few minutes.  Moe - if you want to check it out, shoot me a pm, I'll send it out once I have had a chance to play with it...

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 12:06:40 PM »
  The hole is a traditional feature of old butcher knives, especially cleavers. They were hung by the blade from the ceiling or wall, handle down....from an S hook or a meat hook.
   Probably it's some sort of homage to those old knives, as an aesthetic throwback.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 12:49:22 PM »
What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 05:34:44 PM »
What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?

Watched in interview with Joe Flowers from shot show I think, from what he said the only reason it is stainless is because that is how Matt specified it should be.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 06:57:04 PM »
I will post up a field review when I get a few minutes.  Moe - if you want to check it out, shoot me a pm, I'll send it out once I have had a chance to play with it...

  Thanks my friend,  but if it's a gift from your wife,  you're better off not passing it around,  for your own safety,  women are funny that way.      ;D

Lol.  Standing offer brother....
  The hole is a traditional feature of old butcher knives, especially cleavers. They were hung by the blade from the ceiling or wall, handle down....from an S hook or a meat hook.
   Probably it's some sort of homage to those old knives, as an aesthetic throwback.



Interesting.  I didn'
What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?
t think of that.

What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?

Watched in interview with Joe Flowers from shot show I think, from what he said the only reason it is stainless is because that is how Matt specified it should be.

I respect that, but I'd buy three of these if they were O-1 lol...  The F & F of this particular blade is good, 420HC isn't terrible in my experience as stainless goes, but I'm right with Lamewolf.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 09:41:42 PM »
Nice gift! I'd be interested in a review and/or updates after you get to use it.


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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 05:02:53 AM »
Nice gift! I'd be interested in a review and/or updates after you get to use it.


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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2015, 06:30:22 PM »
kinda like  an improved CS Bushman

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2015, 07:47:41 PM »
kinda like  an improved CS Bushman

Yep, and hand friendly too.  I like this one..

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2015, 03:48:57 PM »
Just wonder if you have had a chance to use this blade anymore? I'm interested in one and was curious how well performed. Thanks for your time.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2015, 05:35:25 PM »
Just wonder if you have had a chance to use this blade anymore? I'm interested in one and was curious how well performed. Thanks for your time.

SH - As a matter fact I was used it yesterday.  I really, really like it.  If you are OK with stainless steel, it's a great knife IMHO...  I strongly recommend that you buy from Baronyx Knives and spend the extra couple bucks for a hand selected one.  Condor is not noted for its QC...

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2015, 06:06:58 PM »
I went to their site but are out of stock. So I went through Amazon. I've not used a stainless chopper but I really like the design and have a Condor Golok that I really like. Thanks for the help and your post

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2015, 05:19:59 PM »
I went to their site but are out of stock. So I went through Amazon. I've not used a stainless chopper but I really like the design and have a Condor Golok that I really like. Thanks for the help and your post

You are welcome.  I hope you like the blade!

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2015, 02:28:16 PM »
Received my knife yesterday and it had no problems. The scales matched fine and the grind looks great. It was pretty sharp but a little attention made it shave. Hoping to get out tomorrow if our monsoons will hold off.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 04:47:36 PM »
 The leaf blade is a cool shape, W. Fairbarin thought so. I've never held a Smatchet but the silhouette looks similar. 

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2015, 05:51:29 PM »
Received my knife yesterday and it had no problems. The scales matched fine and the grind looks great. It was pretty sharp but a little attention made it shave. Hoping to get out tomorrow if our monsoons will hold off.

Great.  How do you like the sheath?  Mine is beautiful and functional...  Can't wait to hear your opinions after you get to beat it.

The leaf blade is a cool shape, W. Fairbarin though so. I've never held a Smatchet but the silhouette looks similar. 



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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2015, 06:20:40 PM »
The sheath is really nice. I believe that the tuck in belt style I will like. I don't like wearing bigger knives so being able to tuck and use it while doing a task and putting it back in a pack appeals to me.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2015, 03:22:43 AM »
I received an email that SMKW has these knives on sale for $60. I just thought I'd pass that along if anyone is interested.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2016, 08:43:06 AM »
The hole is called the Eye Of The Condor.  Decorative purposes only (at least by design) and trademark of Condor
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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2016, 11:23:58 AM »
Wow, a real Orc Cleaver.  I have an Ontario 12" machete that I bought years ago.  I wonder if they are still legal in Texas.  Texas, my Texas...where switchblade knives and AR-15s with 30rd Clips are legal but Tomahawks are not.  Somebody's GGGG Grandmother must have been scared by Comanches.
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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2016, 01:57:37 PM »
Ol' Quanah's ghost casts a pretty long shadow down there, huh, Quench? ;D
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2016, 02:46:58 PM »
They are actually selling this blade in carbon steel now (probably due to our influence!):

http://www.condortk.com/productos-detalle.php?producto=86&cat=71

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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2016, 07:52:26 PM »
Wolfy, Quanah Parker or his  wife are somehow related to the reverend Noah Turner Byars, the inspiration for my HI work at Washington Town.  He was an Indian Agent and Missionary for a while. I am trying to get more info from one of his decendants.
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« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2016, 08:00:30 PM »
I did not know that......THANKS, QC!     Interestingly, I just heard Cynthia Anne and Quanah mentioned in a lecture on the native Americans and the Homestead Act  that I attended in Sioux City yesterday afternoon.
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2016, 08:19:04 AM »
I think this is the last photo of the Rev. Noah Turner Byars.  He's the one with the whiskers:

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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2016, 10:10:05 AM »
The only drop of Native American blood i have in me is from Quannah :)
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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2016, 06:16:28 AM »
What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?

Watched in interview with Joe Flowers from shot show I think, from what he said the only reason it is stainless is because that is how Matt specified it should be.

I got a chance to play with one of these, and several other Condor products, a couple of weeks ago, while visiting Joe Flowers at his home.  I liked it a lot.  Easy in the hand, chops well, and showed no bad traits.

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Re: Condor Primitive Bush Knife
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2016, 08:11:27 AM »
What I don't understand about this knife (which looks like a good design to me) is that they call it "primitive" and then make it out of stainless steel ?

Watched in interview with Joe Flowers from shot show I think, from what he said the only reason it is stainless is because that is how Matt specified it should be.

I got a chance to play with one of these, and several other Condor products, a couple of weeks ago, while visiting Joe Flowers at his home.  I liked it a lot.  Easy in the hand, chops well, and showed no bad traits.

That's my read too....  I would also add that mine came with a very nice edge.  Two of my scout patrols used it during completion with no damage, so I'm impressed.   As an aside, one of my patrols used the condor Thai Enep, which didn't hold up well at all, damage to both the blade and spine....