Very laid back, fair, even tempered moderator wanted.

[PetrifiedWood]

It is very important that whoever takes on the responsibility understands that first and foremost, it is crucial that they not be a hammer in search of a nail. I've only really had to take a handful of moderation actions over the years. We are a pretty self-regulating bunch here and it would surprise me if anything got so far out of hand that anything needed to be done more than once a month on average.

So that said, we don't need the kind of moderator that feels like they have to do something every time there is a rule violation. We need someone who will consider each reported post on a case by case basis. We get perhaps one reported post a month (or possibly less) and often things settle down after the thread is locked and folks have a chance to cool off. If we didn't have sometimes lively, impassioned arguments here, we might not be quite as entertained.

I suggest that all of you carefully consider who among you is the most even tempered and logical, and who YOU would like to trust with the responsibility of making fair decisions about locking threads when they get out of hand. Whoever it is will need to be a "regular" that spends enough time here to be able to respond to moderation reports and PMs within a reasonable time frame. They will also need the ability to set aside their own beliefs and opinions in order to moderate fairly. Bias is readily apparent to most people and it isn't easy to keep it from creeping into moderation actions.

If anyone has any objections to any of the people suggested, please send them to me via PM so as not to avoid ruffling any feathers.

[Orbean]

With the exception of myself and unknown, the both of us being hot-headed, I would think that just about any of the regulars would make a great mod. Having said that, have not things gone fairly well with just us to keep things in order. Frankly  think sometimes threads get lock to quickly; I find myself getting angry and then regretted and having to apologize later, I am thinking the rest of us are the same. Maybe instead of the need for another mod, the older guys could gently steer the newer members in what is appropriate and what is not. Having said that, members have left because of fights mainly because of politics and that kinda sucks.

But if I had to nominate a fellow member it would be Wolfy, I think he would be a good mod, even though I once argued with him about plumbing parts.

[Unknown]

What? Actually I think I'd be quite good at it. Anything I have said in public forums is darn nice. When it wasn't, wee- that was a thread that should have been private from the OP

Here's the thing. I think anyone but PW would have likely banned me some time ago. Not for any right reason. Who whines? Some " terms of service" social justice type? TBH instead of singly me out to not be a mod- I would likely be best at it. Like PM I would have to abstain from numerous threads... well not actually numerous, only the most interesting.

I've complained a few times myself. Like when someone says " Phuck" when that is the most intelligent thing the person ever said. it bugs me because- why does one need to be so esplicit; the lil censored dude is good enough. You guys are not clever when you say @ss. Maybe you realize in that moment you are only talking to a dozen people, so it is ok.

Me? I want you to get mad. At me if needs be. I want you to think, re-examine. Obviously you all are in need of challenge. ( craftsmen excluded)

Having me for a mod would be just someone to talk to if you had a problem, but then you might get a pm asking why are you treating that. New guy like

[Mannlicher]

Other than booting spam trolls, I don?t see any need for a moderator.  God knows I would not be the ideal candidate.  Lol

[madmax]

They probably can't do it because they always have a lot on their plates,  but Crashdive123 and Yellowyak are both very level headed and computer savvy.  I've camped quite a few times with them and they both would be excellent mods.  Crash can sniff out a spammer like a bloodhound.

[OutdoorEnvy]

Wolfy, crash, and yellowyak all would get my nod.  Sarge too seems well grounded.  The list could get long.  The regulars are mostly gentlemen so I don?t think there?s a bad choice here.  Let?s just hope the thread doesnt go south and has to be locked.  Ha!

[wsdstan]

I think Nuke would be good as well as about ten others.

I agree with Orbean that Unknown would not be a good pick.

I also agree that a moderator who could just kill a thread if it got out of hand would be about all we need.  PW is smart and will pick a good one so I ain't worried about it. 

[BigHat]

Nuke.

[Moe M.]

 I was trying to stay out of this but it looks like I can't (as usual),  as much as I respect Nuk, his opinions and enjoy his postings I don't think he has the temperament for the position, it was he who suggested that we needed a new moderator to close a thread that really didn't need closing, it was going along fine, every one was civil, and the topic though perhaps a bit controversial was no means over the top in my opinion.

 Again, In my opinion, besides being laid back, fair, and even tempered a Moderator also needs to be flexible when it comes to interpreting the rules and closing down threads,  personally I have to agree with Mannlicher, I don't see the need for more moderation, we've been getting along just fine without more than we've had, if some event comes up that changes the way things have been going revisit the need for another mod then,  if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

[imnukensc]

Moe, go back and reread the thread.  It was the OP who requested that the thread be closed. Whether or not the thread needed to be closed should be addressed with the OP.  I merely said we needed a mod to do it and there were none available.  Hence, my suggestion that we needed another mod or two.  Also, in that same thread I said I wasn't the person for the job because I'm too much of an so I agree with you that I don't have the temperment for the job.

[madmax]

I did request that thread get closed.  Someone started taking it down the rabbit hole.  Just like he tried to do in this thread...

   

[xj35s]

Not sure I could or would want too but I work nights so I could be on during the day, early evenings, and very early mornings. I have no political opinions and don't take things personally. I have a strong moral standpoint.
I have been meaning to become a supporter as well. Why haven't I done that already??

With all that said I don't think it's necessary either 

[Moe M.]

Moe, go back and reread the thread.  It was the OP who requested that the thread be closed. Whether or not the thread needed to be closed should be addressed with the OP.  I merely said we needed a mod to do it and there were none available.  Hence, my suggestion that we needed another mod or two.  Also, in that same thread I said I wasn't the person for the job because I'm too much of an so I agree with you that I don't have the temperment for the job.

  Sorry Nuk, my bad,  I apologize,  and don't feel bad,  I'd make a lousy Mod. also,  I'm much too opinionated, and way too quick to choose sides on issues I feel passionate about.

[imnukensc]

No apology necessary, Moe.  No offense taken.

[hayshaker]

well there goes my chance of running this fourm like
my own personal fifthdom. you know like boss hog.

[xj35s]

or not...