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Ka-Bar BK62
« on: November 21, 2018, 09:42:30 PM »
I ordered a first production run BK62 when it was released last week.


I whittled a little maple from the yard and used it in the kitchen a bit, My first impressions are very positive. The weight, balance and in-hand feel are very close to the original Colclesser. I believe machining double convex bevels would have been cost prohibitive so it is a full flat grind with a little relief at the spine. Blade has a nice stonewashed finish - very smooth and clean with no coating, no grind or machine grooves. Knife and leather sheath are made in the USA.
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 07:22:04 AM »
mine should be here tomorrow -- fingers crossed!
how close is the weight to the ones you're making?

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 07:58:18 AM »
Where did you guys get them from.....and how many frogskins? :shrug:    I might get one, just for giggles, but those handle bolts look like warts on the nose of a pretty woman! :doh:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 08:19:31 AM »
Hey vik, they weigh in at 5.5 oz. - same as the Colclesser. Mine end up a little heavier.

Wolfy, smkw.com has them for $119 w/ free shipping this weekend.
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 08:20:15 AM »
I have been following the news about this knife.  After reading about it and seeing photos of the finished product I would think it will be a good knife but I would rather have the one I got from Sarge.

If I was going to buy a knife for someone as a gift it would sure be on my list.

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 09:30:28 AM »


Wolfy, smkw.com has them for $119 w/ free shipping this weekend.

That might be more than my curiosity could stand. :lol:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 02:40:29 PM »
Well, I'm embarrassed to report that my curiosity got the best of me and I went ahead and ordered one of Ethan's BK62 Colclesser/Kelphart clones.    Here's a photo of them both together........

https://images52.fotki.com/v1639/photos/2/3811772/16042716/OldandNew-vi.jpg

As you can plainly see from the photo, the copy is very well done for a production blade.  I took measurements off the one I got, so you can get a better idea of what you wil get if you order one.

Handle: 
Material: Straight grained walnut
Length: 4.44"
Thickness at pommel: .635"
Thickness at pinch/balance point: .595"
Thickness at finger guard: .759
Width at pommel: 1.62"
Width at pinch/balance point: 1.10"

Blade:
Thickness at ricasso: .150"
Thickness at tip: .035"
Length: 5.17"
Width: 1.55"
Beveled dual top swedges: Tip to very near the handle......nice touch!
Beginning of taper: 1.35" from tip
Finish: Stonewashed
Grind: Flat, straight, with tapered full tang

Sheath:  Leather, pouch-type, welted, sewn & riveted, one piece with sewn leather belt loop and plastic inner-liner/stiffener surrounding the blade portion of the knife.

Overall impressions:  For a production representation of an actual Colclesser/Kephart clone, I think it is nearly a dead-on copy......EXCEPT for the grind, of course.  The edge grind didn't LOOK sharp when I took it out of the box because of the coarse scratches left on the edge from the final factory edge finish, but after a quick pass over the polishing steel it passed the paper test and forearm shave with ease.....I was amazed! 

The sheath was actually pretty decent.  It's getting better now, but VERY snug at first.  They made a mistake (as far as I am concerned) when they sewed the belt loop to the body of the sheath and there's no way of correcting it without tearing the whole thing apart.  The stitching should have taken place just past the handle and underneath the plastic liner.  As it stands now, the nylon stitches end up right where the raised finger guard sits in the sheath and are not nestled into a stitching groove.  It's not only a wear-point for the stitches, but also the finger-guard ridge on the side of the left handle scale.....I can see where the sharp edge of that ridge is already rounding off a little on mine.

The Allen screw bolts and nuts were already loose on my handle when it came out of the box.   They always were, and always will, remain butt-ugly to my eye.  I don't know why they did that on THIS particular model, especially!   Simple pins would have looked and performed better, been a whole lot easier to clean up and even cheaper for the manufacturer to build.  The wood needed a little light sanding and I rubbed in a couple of real light applications of a 50/50 mix of Birchwood Casey's Tru-Oil & mineral spirits.  I think that helps seal the grain and fill the open pores a bit without adding too much shine......enriches the color and moisture resistance, too.

The knife works just as well as I suspected it would, but cannot come anywhere near the quality & performance that Sarge builds into his fully convexed Kepharts.  For the jobs that turn up in our world of everyday bushlore-builds and camp cookery, though.....this knife is a sure winner!

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2018, 04:25:19 PM »
Thanks for the report.  The information follows what I have read about the sheath except no one had mentioned the wear point issue you bring up.  Others have commented on how good it is for a production knife and so forth.  I have been playing with Sarge's version this afternoon as it is too damn cold to go outside for someone my age and still won't buy one of them cause I already got the best one.

I can assumed from giving it the highly coveted WOLFY APPROVED stamp you would buy another one should the need arise?
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2018, 04:35:37 PM »
Sssshhhh......even though she thinks I just 'wasted' even more frog skins on ANOTHER knife, I think that Heather will end up getting this one for a Christmas present. O:-)     How cool is that.......TWO Kepharts in the same family! 8) 8) :camp: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

That should even up the score for the Ken Onion version of the WorkSharp that I already know 'Mrs. Santa' is giving me this year. :banana:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2018, 05:49:26 PM »
Careful with that Ken Onion thing.  You'll be sharpening everything you got whether it needs it or not.  Order extra belts now unless you got a source in your town.  Don't cut yourself either.

I bought a new knife the other day but ain't telling my wife until I sneak it out of the mailbox and into the pile of them on the work table.  I am hoping she don't know one from the other. 
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2018, 06:05:01 PM »
She told me she already ordered 5 more sets of belts while she was ordering the machine on Amazon.  I've taught her well. 8)
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2018, 06:10:08 PM »
Well there you go then.  Home free.   ;D
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 07:48:01 PM »
I am almost embarrassed to say I have two knives and some watch parts due for delivery in the next few days while my wife is visiting her convalescing sister in Kansas City. I wonder how that happened?
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 07:55:37 PM »
I was expecting a side by side with Mike's example and the '62 :-\ when I clicked.

Unfortunately I don't have enough money to spare for a BKabar right now. I hope they keep making them until I come up with a cash-rich scheme.
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 04:58:52 PM »
Glad you got one, wolfy, and glad you like it. I agree with your impressions.

I haven't had much time to use mine yet.

Guys, our struggle is real... I recently moved from day shift to afternoon shift so I'm usually home in the mornings to receive - ok, hide - packages. I have to explain a lot fewer of my packages to my wife .... but, sadly, I learned she gets just as many deliveries as me.  :doh:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2018, 06:50:45 PM »
I am retired but so is my wife.  We just fess up at the beginning with what we bought and what is coming.  My wife is a good sport about it and she actually buys very little stuff, at least as far as I know.   :shrug:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2018, 06:52:53 PM »
got my kabar bk62 - thinned some tung oil with citrus oil and soaked that in to seal up the grain.
out of the box sharpness it cut paper and made curly shavings on a scrap of kiln dried pine.
gutted and skinned a deer - then 3 days later, processed the deer, deboned, etc...
after that, it still cut meat fine, but would no longer shave hair off my arm so I spent 30 seconds on the strop with it.

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2018, 06:54:39 PM »
deleted as it was already posted but didn't show up for awhile.  ?????
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2018, 07:21:59 PM »
Yep, Stan, I was sorta kidding about our deliveries at home. Most of the packages addressed to my wife are for the kids. My wife has never counted guns and knives too closely and I don't count shoes and purses. Works out pretty well.

I rubbed a couple coats of Tru-oil on my 62 scales then knocked down the sheen with steel wool.

Congrats on the deer, vik!
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2018, 07:50:29 PM »
After a whole lot of wet sharpening at the hone, I gotta say a quick coat or two of CA glue beats true oil all day.
  Like t-o you can have a thick or thin coating; gloss or matte. CA dry time is in seconds, and the thin type penetrates and is pretty hard and moisture proof. More so than tru oil. IME.
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2018, 08:00:20 PM »
thanks, Sarge - was just a little button, but he provided about 26 pounds of meat and I'm grinding 5# of bacon into it for fat content. (except the loins - those stay whole)

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2018, 08:04:17 PM »
After a whole lot of wet sharpening at the hone, I gotta say a quick coat or two of CA glue beats true oil all day.
  Like t-o you can have a thick or thin coating; gloss or matte. CA dry time is in seconds, and the thin type penetrates and is pretty hard and moisture proof. More so than tru oil. IME.

Yeah, I know, but my tube of superglue had turned to a crusty white mass.....but I DID have an old bottle of TruOil down on my loading bench.  Looks good 'nuff to me. :shrug:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2018, 08:10:32 PM »
got my kabar bk62 - thinned some tung oil with citrus oil and soaked that in to seal up the grain.
out of the box sharpness it cut paper and made curly shavings on a scrap of kiln dried pine.
gutted and skinned a deer - then 3 days later, processed the deer, deboned, etc...
after that, it still cut meat fine, but would no longer shave hair off my arm so I spent 30 seconds on the strop with it.

Congrats on the meat-animal, Vik! :cheers:    I'm done with deer for the year, I think, but it sounds like the BK62 performed very well for you.  Sounds like yours was out-of-the-box sharp, too......it just might be the sharpest factory edge that I've ever recieved.  Good knife. :thumbsup:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2018, 08:35:37 PM »
After a whole lot of wet sharpening at the hone, I gotta say a quick coat or two of CA glue beats true oil all day.
  Like t-o you can have a thick or thin coating; gloss or matte. CA dry time is in seconds, and the thin type penetrates and is pretty hard and moisture proof. More so than tru oil. IME.

Yeah, I know, but my tube of superglue had turned to a crusty white mass.....but I DID have an old bottle of TruOil down on my loading bench.  Looks good 'nuff to me. :shrug:
So true Wolfy. Tru oil is for resting on the shelf. Don't think I don't like it. TO is fine for its uses. But for a finish on knife scales it's the difference between a crank party line telephone and a cellular smart phone- yep! Use the one you have: just don't think the old one is better because you don't have the new one.

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 09:34:52 PM »
Thanks Wolfy - groceries are always a good thing.
I'm pretty happy with it for a factory knife.
Sarge's ARE better, but for half the cost the Kabar isn't too shabby.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2019, 11:37:47 AM »
More facets of the sheath that I have noticed (after hundreds of sheathings & unsheathings).....really just more ramblings about this well-done rendering of Horace's favorite 'do everything' knife/sheath combo.

After a full-monte trip through the new Ken Onion/WorkSharp, I noticed tiny leather shavings coming out the sheath.  Since the body of the sheath is lined with an open-edge & folded plastic liner/stiffener where the blade rests, the shavings can only come from one place....the welt.  I suspect that condition will lessen with time.  I am not concerned with the knife settling further into the sheath and eventually cutting the stitching because of the limits built into the sheath's design at the opening.  Even if it did, the rivet at the belly area of the blade would prevent the edge from being dangerously exposed.  My only concern would be if the edge eventually came into contact with the rivet, causing slight edge dullness at that single spot of contact. 

A pleasant discovery, that I just became aware of in the last couple of days....the sheath, by design (whether intentional or not) has a 'two-stage' release position for the sheathed knife.  At a full-stage sheathed position, with the first handle-bolt fully out of sight, the knife is in a locked position that requires two hands to overcome....I'll call that the 'transport' position.  When in the secondary or 'ready' position with the first handle-bolt almost fully exposed, the knife hits the spot in the sheath where first of the rivets in the welt is positioned.  There is a perceptible 'detent' at this point, that not only retains the handle, but makes for a one-handed unsheathing of the knife from the sheath.  That feature is REALLY handy when you are working on a project that requires a place to stow the knife while using both hands on the project, but will be using the knife again in a minute or two.  There is plenty of friction to hold the knife in place at this secondary 'set-trigger' position, but it doesn't require a second (or third) hand to get the knife & sheath separated.  Even if you forget to snap it fully into the 'transport' position, it will stay in position under the lighter 'ready' detention spot.....even when turning the sheathed blade upside down and shaking it!  A pre-test of your knife/sheath should tell if this works for you as well as it does for me.  :thumbsup:



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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2019, 08:46:14 PM »
Good stuff, Wolfy! I'll have to double check mine.
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2019, 08:34:36 AM »
I have not acquired on of these yet.  Thought about it but in the decided it would just interfere with using the one I got from Sarge. 
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2019, 09:14:54 AM »
It's only a matter of time before curiosity overcomes common sense. ;)     You know you can always sell or trade it, too..........did THAT help? :shrug:
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2019, 12:24:12 PM »
If there was something about it that gave me something I don't already have in the best Kephart clone then it might override my common sense (which is a fragile thing to begin with as you well know).  I learned to never say never when it comes to women and knives at an early age.    :P
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2019, 04:45:48 PM »
I'm with you Stan, just can't see any reason to get the BK62, when I already have a much better blade. And its not ugly 
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2019, 05:00:04 PM »
Yeah, like I said before, those handle-bolts are an abomination......pr etty 'steampunk' on an otherwise descent Kephart rendition. :( 

I use mine for opening paint cans. :coffee:
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2019, 04:31:05 PM »
A pretty nicely done video on the new BK-62.....

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2019, 05:12:09 PM »
I don't care much for that review.  Mostly because they don't use the knife for enough tasks to get a good feel for what it is good at and what it isn't.  He batons a piece of wood and carves a stick.  Makes the comment that it could be a good skinner and thinks it could be okay to make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. He gave me the impression he didn't like the knife but searched for things to say it was okay at.  Then he shows us a bushcraft knife. 

 

 
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2019, 05:46:04 PM »
Well, Stan, that indicates to me that you just can't please everyone.  :shrug: :popcorn:   I agree with you that they didn't do much with it, but my take was that in the end, even though they were both ready to find fault with it, they really couldn't. :P :P
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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2019, 06:04:28 PM »
I think that is a fair assessment. 

The other day I was putting my turkey hunting gear together for the season that started today.  I chose to put a belt knife that sarge made in place of the Kephart as it is a bit smaller and more than adequate for taking apart a turkey.  I will use the Kephart for deer and kitchen work.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2019, 12:20:39 PM »
Here's another assessment that is a little more illustrative of the Kephart's capabilities and how it performs.......

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Re: Ka-Bar BK62
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2019, 02:53:25 PM »
I've met and interacted with both of those reviewers.
since I can't think of anything nice to say about PM101, I won't comment further.
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2019, 06:43:18 PM »
That was a little better wolfy, she at least processed the dinner.  For some reason I could not hear much of her talk but could gather a bit from what she said. 

I think the Kephart is a capable pattern, perhaps better as an all around knife than any one specific use.  It also works, if you are careful, as a draw knife.
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