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More Face Book censorship
« on: March 19, 2019, 06:43:06 AM »
Yesterday I was booted out of the closed FB group ?Appalachian Trail?. Some little Nancy boy was bleating about being afraid of bears on the trail.  I suggested a Glock 10MM.   Poof......... I was gone.   😜

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Re: More Face Book censorship
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 10:19:38 AM »
Who banned you, the group admin. or FB?  It is BS what they ban people for.  Did you get a permanent ban? from the group or from FB.   

Anyway, insult a Muslim, you're gone according to some guys on another site.  Post a photo of a scantily clad girl and put a funny caption on it .... you're gone.  FB banned a large firearms closed group because one of their members said he had a gun for sale on one of his posts.  Repeat offender liberal perhaps. 

I wish there was an alternative to FB and the groups like the one that banned you.  Maybe we all should just go to sites that are like this one and say to hell with FB and the various retard groups.  They are not going to change and we are not going to change them.  The liberal asswipes that run the groups and run FB have all the power.  They simply control what they want to control.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2019, 01:43:55 PM »
Well, that is one group I will not have to worry about being banned from....never joined, never will! :coffee:
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Re: More Face Book censorship
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 05:26:01 PM »
I was added to the group by a friend, I never asked to join.  I have no idea who pulled the trigger on me.   It?s of no consequence, other than to point out that censorship is a part of daily life online.

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 06:17:07 PM »
They are an anti-weapon bunch.  In their rules it states in rule 4 that anyone who even mentions a firearm or knife will be removed.

It kind of chaps that they have over 43,000 members.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2019, 09:12:18 PM »
You can post on/pol/.. lol.

What is the complaint about the decision again? You were expelled from a group you made no decision to join.
   They're right. 10 mm glock ain't the end all. It's just something you got a deal on.

Don't take none of that the wrong way. I have a strong market for bear skins if you can supply
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 07:02:27 AM »
I was added to the group by a friend, I never asked to join.  I have no idea who pulled the trigger on me.   It?s of no consequence, other than to point out that censorship is a part of daily life online.

 It's not only on line, it's everywhere and it's only going to get worse, stifling opposing thought is the new weapon of choice for those insistent on transforming this country into a European type Socialist "Utopia".
 
 This is a scary time for America.   
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2019, 10:25:23 AM »
Gee.  Sam getting thrown off a soy boy forum for  pissing someone off?  What a surprise.  LOL.

And yes, Moe it is a very scary time.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 12:44:37 AM »
That's capitalism for you.  People often forget but Facebook, Fox News, etc are private companies and can determine what they will allow on their 'property'.  I'm told that anyone that doesn't like it can start their own forum/platform/network.  Note that it's not just "socialists" in the corporate world.  Prominent politicians are pushing hard to make criticism of the government a crime (or at the least a civil offense).

Dangerous times indeed.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 03:10:26 PM »
I was added to the group by a friend, I never asked to join.  I have no idea who pulled the trigger on me.   It?s of no consequence, other than to point out that censorship is a part of daily life online.

So, the group Admins gave you the boot, not F.B
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 03:37:12 PM »
You can post on/pol/.. lol.

What is the complaint about the decision again? You were expelled from a group you made no decision to join.
   They're right. 10 mm glock ain't the end all. It's just something you got a deal on.

Don't take none of that the wrong way. I have a strong market for bear skins if you can supply

GFY you moron.   laughing

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 03:38:28 PM »
I was added to the group by a friend, I never asked to join.  I have no idea who pulled the trigger on me.   It?s of no consequence, other than to point out that censorship is a part of daily life online.

So, the group Admins gave you the boot, not F.B
that would appear to be it.  I know the Florida Trail Association is rabidly anti gun.  To join,  you have to state that you will never carry a gun on the trail.  I laughed in the girl's face when she told me that at their headquarters here in Gainesville. 

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 04:06:25 PM »
You guys should hear him around the campfire when he really gets going.  LOL.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2019, 08:57:28 PM »
rabidly anti gun.
   A few years ago, a friend and I debated gun control. His position was, there is no reason for anyone to have a firearm, ever. If you have a problem, call law enforcement. Out here, response time is at least 20 minutes on the best of days.  I disagreed and we left it at that. We agreed to disagree.
   As luck would have it, and it seldom works out this way, a few days later, two rabid skunks came into the yard at the same time as he did. He ran up to the house, all excited and wanted to borrow our shotgun before his dog tangled with these two rabid skunks. The skunks were dispatched, disposed of and guns were never discussed again. I could not have worked out better for me if I had planned it.   

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Re: More Face Book censorship
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2019, 01:37:46 PM »
That's capitalism for you. 
 
Buwahahaha!!! About the most ignorant statement I've heard all year. Complete lack of understanding of the system we labor (are enslaved) under, society, etc.

Hint: these States united are not, and have never been, a capitalism. In other words, zero Americans have ever experienced life under capitalism. Doh!

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Re: More Face Book censorship
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2019, 02:05:03 PM »
Here are some of the images FB found offensive, which resulted in my 9th week long ban from logging in. The ban hammer came down *11 minutes* after I uploaded them to one of my FB albums. Got them off FB in the first place! Doh! Didn't share, get in any arguments, etc. Just stored 'em in an album.



 



 

Guest I did the images incorrectly.
Here's direct links.

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https://gifyu.com/image/36vp 

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2019, 12:13:32 AM »
That's capitalism for you. 
 
Buwahahaha!!! About the most ignorant statement I've heard all year. Complete lack of understanding of the system we labor (are enslaved) under, society, etc

Did you just come out of a coma? ;)

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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2019, 06:16:07 AM »
That's capitalism for you. 
 
Buwahahaha!!! About the most ignorant statement I've heard all year. Complete lack of understanding of the system we labor (are enslaved) under, society, etc

Did you just come out of a coma? ;)

 No need to be insulting,  I also found your post to be a bit left of the mark, you said the word capitalism like it left a foul taste in your mouth, and your tone when linking Facebook and Fox News together in the same statement didn't go unnoticed, It's just my opinion of course but Facebook, Twitter, some leftist blogs, the lame stream media and most colleges around the country are the ones doing the stifling of ideas and opinions of those who are criticizing the tactics of the radical left and their headlong dash into European socialism.
 Fox News (and it does have it's warts) so far is the only news network to make it a point to give "the other side" it's opposing views, and even employs liberal commentators and includes guest from the left to give their side and sometimes to debate issues, something you don't see on CNN and other like leftist networks.
 I think the problem most people are having is not so much about complaining about government which is a natural function of society, but it more about the intentional impeding of government function that gets to most folks, the left has devoted the last three years to trying to overturn a legitimate national election with every dirty trick in their playbook not to mention the millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars on BS investigations and prosecutions all based on illegal warrants and testimony, and have spent ZERO time on the issues that We The People hired them to do with is conduct The Peoples business.
 And that my friend is the rub.
 
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2019, 01:53:05 AM »
You say socialism like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. ;)  You keep using that word- I do not think it means what you think it means. :Dm  Getting emotional doesn't change the facts which are as follows:

1) Facebook, Google, Faux News, etc are private companies.
2) They have property rights and in many ways are legally "people".
3) You're not required to agree with them.  They're not elected aren't answerable to you.
4) You can vote with your dollars.  Isn't that what we've always was beautiful about the free market? :)

There's nothing illegal about this, nor can I imagine how it could be.  We all hate regulation, right?  Are you going to sugest with a straight face that a government official can better manage Facebook's business than facebook can?

I realize most folks here look under their bed at night to make sure there's no socialism under there. :rofl:  It's so scary that it can make a fella forget what it actually is, so let's look it up.  Per Miriam:

socialism noun
so?​cial?​ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm
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Definition of socialism

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


So socialism doesn't mean women and black people get to vote or that gay people can have wedding cakes.  In a nutshell it means that the State owns or controls the means of production and/or distribution.  It doesn't mean saying mean things about Trump although he seems to think that alone should be illegal.  No, socialism is more like the military, health care in much of Europe.

No, social media is pretty much as pure as capitalism gets.  Faux, Facebook, CNN etc create information bubbles where your beliefs are never challenged and everyone agrees with you.  It's a great shortcut to actually thinking so naturally it sells like hotcakes. 
 
It's really so utterly simple- be willing to pay for another kind of system and you can have one.  Don't like Fplacebook? Simply start your own social media platform.  Short of that, be honest and consistent.  Lots of folks think it's terrible for CNBC to support liberal causes but fine for Chick-Fila to support conservative causes.

Remember, thanks to the radical right money is speech now.  It cuts both ways though. 


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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2019, 07:16:45 AM »
 Well,  my folks taught me that trying to argue politics with a refrigerator door is a damned frustrating exercise in futility, so I won't try, I will point out however that America wasn't founded on any model even approaching socialism, but was intended to operate with a very limited central government. 
 A quick look around the globe at other countries that have adopted socialism, many of them progressing into communism show us that socialism doesn't have a very good track record of matching the success that America has achieved economically, technologically, in the areas of human rights, individual opportunity.
 While some could point to countries like Canada for example that tends to have found a happy medium between capitalism and socialism it's not without it's problems, GB, France, Germany, Spain, and Greece are good examples of strong socialist strongholds that are in deep economic troubles, seems the folks there are feeling a bit overtaxed and under served, the Nordic countries has a good run but they're advanced socialist policies have them going broke on a fast track.
 Socialism appeals to the masses, especially those that are under educated, poorly skilled, unmotivated, or  minorities that have been convinced that the system has victimized them, as long as they are lured by promises of "free stuff" and an overly inflated social welfare system that is funded by "other peoples money".
 All one needs to pay attention to is the latest bunch of democrats like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and the rest who like to point to Cuba and some South American countries as good examples of strong government and orderly societies.
 Most of all, our founding documents which are the foundation of the America Idea and these United States are in direct opposition to big government socialism, and if we are really paying attention we'll notice that the word democracy has been getting a lot of lip and press service lately,  so is talk of getting rid of the electoral college, redistricting states, letting prisoners vote, lowering the age of voting to 16 yrs. old, letting undocumented aliens vote in local, state, and national elections, their plan is to pretty well negate the votes of those folks that live in the heartland and rural places in this country.
 Most if not all the policies that the New left in this country want to install and their minions support are unconstitutional on their face and in practice,  which brings us all right back to the beginning of this thread, got to get rid of the First and Second amendments to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and have open borders if Socialism is to stand a chance of digging it's roots into this country before the people can realize they've been duped.   

 I agree that Capitalism is not Ideal, but until something better comes around it's a schitt load better than Socialism.

 Oh, and yes, Socialism leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
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Re: More Face Book censorship
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2019, 10:06:19 AM »
Facebook sucks in so many ways. :coffee:
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2019, 04:24:29 PM »
This thread started when one of our members got kicked out of a liberal anti-gun trail hiking group.  So how it morphed to where it is now is kind of strange.  I will add my two cents and hope we can have a post about Bushcraft show up. 

In my view we have enough historical evidence that communism and socialism in an industrial economy is a guaranteed disaster for the people who live in those systems.  When China has to take Mao's version of Marxism and put a healthy layer of industrial capitalism on it that should tell even the leftists that Capitalism is the system that provides the best economic standard of living for the most people.  We have a world population that requires food, medical care, housing, and the other assets.  People in the Sub-Sahara have different needs and wants than people who live in western Europe and so forth.  What system has worked for most of them is some form of economic freedom.

The other systems that have worked to some degree are the various Monarchies. Many of these have drifted into socialism and have or are in the process of failing.  Of the current socialist regimes the most successful is probably Finland and that is credited by most as due to the private property  assets being left in the hands of the private sector.  Finland isn't doing so well with its current health insurance system but time will tell if it can survive the expense.  The rest of the socialisms are following Venezuela down the drain. 

All systems are hampered to some degree by conflicting cultural values within the population and governmental regulation.  How badly hampered is subject to change as the political power structure changes.  Germany, Britain and France among others have decided to allow large numbers of immigrants into their country and these people have remarkably different cultures than the countries they are entering.  Their conflicts will likely grow more extreme over the coming decades as the opposing cultures clash.

Our country survived (sort of) eight years of Obama but I am not optimistic about our future if the political pendulum swings very far back to the left.  If the voters give the left control of the congress and the white house; I believe we will be done as a republic.  No electoral college, an increase in a staggering national debt, and additional governmental controls of the economy and means of production.  You can probably throw some of the Green plan in there as well.  As a final insult they will probably kick a bunch of us off a bunch of forums.

 
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2019, 04:42:54 PM »
Sadly yes, Stan.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2019, 06:35:34 PM »
Discussions like this would be so much more engaging without the ues of pejoratives.  Usining them defines the person using them rather than the objects of their ridicule.  Let's have cool heads prevail and just move on.

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2019, 01:52:42 PM »
Weeeeell.  The Florida Trail Association called the sheriff and got me ousted from a 7000 acre WMA. I think maybe they got all "safe space" when I showed them my Crashete.  I could be wrong.

...am I becoming Sam?
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2019, 03:17:47 PM »
They got you ousted for carrying a firearm in a WMA?  How rude.  I hope an alligator with a coral snake riding on his back invades their safe space.
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2019, 07:49:00 AM »
No my firearm was legally carried concealed.  It was the monstrous  machete birthed by Crash.  I offered to let them borrow it to clear trail.  Cue shock and fear from the granola eaters.  I don't really know how many would've fainted if I'd accidently let my firearm peak out.
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2019, 08:25:31 AM »
Now it is even worse.  Ousted for a machete. 
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2019, 05:18:25 PM »
LOL, well it is a damn big blade, an you do have that wildman look going on, where's that photo, i'll keep looking.  :rofl:
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2019, 01:09:00 PM »
What happens when you get kicked off FB?  Do they notify you or just cut you off?  I just get blank page now.  I don't think I posted anything egregious.

Spyder.  I'm sure I don't know what "look" you're talking about.

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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2019, 03:46:12 PM »
That's capitalism for you.  People often forget but Facebook, Fox News, etc are private companies and can determine what they will allow on their 'property'.  I'm told that anyone that doesn't like it can start their own forum/platform/network.  Note that it's not just "socialists" in the corporate world.  Prominent politicians are pushing hard to make criticism of the government a crime (or at the least a civil offense).

Dangerous times indeed.

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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2019, 04:42:09 PM »
 :rofl:
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2019, 10:00:58 PM »

 Chuckles to self.
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