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Skookum Bush Tool
« on: December 17, 2019, 05:55:22 AM »
Just received my Skookum Bush Tool that I ordered from Rod. I got a email from Rod last week letting me know that my knife was finished, and I received it Saturday. It was a 6 year long wait, but it was worth it (To Me).

I know Rod gets a lot of hatred due to his lack of communication, and his long waiting list, but he does come through.

Please do not shoot Rod down in this thread, as it's about the knife, NOT Rod. I ordered mine in A2 with red micarta.

Let's hear your thoughts on the SBT, and share photos if you own one.

SBT https://imgur.com/gallery/OV5rhRf


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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2019, 07:27:56 AM »
 There certainly are worse knife choices a person could make than a SBT,  Rod makes a decent knife, and if you have the time and the cash to be able to afford one they are a pretty good investment especially if you are a collector or player on the knife market.
 I'm a simple knife user, I have my biases about certain types of knives,  I like old school slip joint pocket knives with bone or stag scales, when it comes to fixed blade woods bumming type knives there are quite a few excellent brands and models across the price spectrum that are good quality blades, I'm not into tactical/military/survival or Rambo type knives, not that they don't have their place, they do,  just not in my stable.
 One knife bias that I do have that doesn't win me a lot of friends is my dislike for Mora Knives, don't bother to ask me why, the list is short and I'll admit that it's pretty petty, I grew up using Mora sportsman's knives in the '60's and '70's, loved 'em,  great steel, comfortable birch handles, and very good leather sheaths, as I started working for wages and could afford more expensive knives I lost track or Mora's offerings,  when I got into bush craft most knife talk usually had a statement suggesting that you can't go wrong with a Mora, so I had me a look, I was shocked, composite steel, all machine made, cheap pallet wood barrel handles or molded plastic, gone were the well made leather sheaths replaced with ugly cheap plastic sheaths, anyhow, don't ask.
 Back to the Skookum Bush Tool, I don't dislike them, they are good quality well made knives, but they hold no magic, IMHO there are many other knives on the market that are on an equal par with the SBT, Gossman, Beck, and Adventure Sworn come to mind in the same or a little lower price range, Bark River, Falkkniven, and a few other mid priced offerings make the cut as well, on the economy market Condor puts out a couple of user friendly woods knives with blade designs similar to the SBT.
 My personal favorite Bush Tool design knife is from a maker named Joe Honeycut, no longer in the business, he made and marketed the Black Feather brand, his version featured excellent steel, great fit and finish, and also came with an optional steel pommel plate, my Black Feather Bush Tool is a one off custom featuring Ironwood scales, steel pommel plate, thin red line spacers and custom mosaic pins, what I like about the Black Feather version over Rod's version is that the knife is ever slightly more robust then the Skookum, the handle is just a bit more comfortable, and the other thing I like about the Black Feather knife is the Tip of the blade is not as tapered as the Skookum and is less prone to brakeage which has been a recurring issue with the Skookum Bush Tool, other than those small differences, both are equally great knives that will not disappoint their owners. 
 Looking forward to your field review, and welcome back Mike. 
 









     
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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2019, 08:40:57 AM »
Moe,

Good to hear from you you. I've had a few life changing events in the last few years, and a lot has changed.

I also received one last week that I think you would like. It's a Andaltool Canadian Forest Knife by James Andal in British Columbia. It's a very nice compact set up, with a strong tip. I've had it a week and have used the heck out of it, and like it a lot. They are $180 USD shipped, but James doesn't take orders. He makes them in small batches of usually 7 or less and posts them on his Facebook page, they go really fast.

Maybe I'll stop by one of the gatherings, and say hello. Here is the Andaltool.....  Andaltool CFK https://imgur.com/gallery/R4ubzkI

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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2019, 12:14:54 PM »
Post some photos if you can.  I know Moe doesn't.  Did you actually wait six years for this knife? 

I have held a couple of SBT MK1 knives and thought they were well made but not any better than several other customs I have.  The fit and finish of House Mountain knives (Mike) and Bernie Garlands line of Bushcraft knives are, to me, better than the SBT knives I held.  I liked the extra holes in the handle until I gutted a few deer with a Bark River Fox River and now I detest those holes.  Easy to clean though.  Just a picky point.  I don't plan on making a scythe out of one or any other of Mors uses. 

What does the current price of a SBT run?  I just went to his website and it says a bit over $200?  If you are a collector of knives then, as Moe points out, it makes sense to buy one.  If you buy one to keep and use forever it doesn't, at least to me.   

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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2019, 02:52:41 PM »
Yes, I waited 6 years for this one. I ordered it back in 2013 and it arrived Saturday. The current price is $260 shipped.

Click on this link for pictures. I ordered mine with just one lanyard hole.  SBT https://imgur.com/gallery/OV5rhRf

Also, where do I order one of those Kephart knives you have? I think the name was Sarge?
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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2019, 06:48:39 PM »
Thanks for that link.  Those are nearly identical to the two I handled.  The price is not as much as I was hearing on some other forums some time ago. 

The Kepharts are made by a member of this forum.  His name is Mike McCarter  His forum name is Sarge and you can send him a pm from here. 

His knife venture is called House Mountain blades.  He has a facebook page under that name.   


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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 09:51:11 AM »
Post some photos if you can.  I know Moe doesn't.  Did you actually wait six years for this knife? 



What does the current price of a SBT run?  I just went to his website and it says a bit over $200?  If you are a collector of knives then, as Moe points out, it makes sense to buy one.  If you buy one to keep and use forever it doesn't, at least to me.

 The Skokum's run about $300.00 from Rod depending on upgrades,  but the waiting times and Rod's odd business model encourage buying one on the secondary market which a lot of people choose to do,  most SBT sell for about $500.00 on the secondary market even when used.   
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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 10:12:36 AM »
Post some photos if you can.  I know Moe doesn't.  Did you actually wait six years for this knife? 



What does the current price of a SBT run?  I just went to his website and it says a bit over $200?  If you are a collector of knives then, as Moe points out, it makes sense to buy one.  If you buy one to keep and use forever it doesn't, at least to me.

 The Skokum's run about $300.00 from Rod depending on upgrades,  but the waiting times and Rod's odd business model encourage buying one on the secondary market which a lot of people choose to do,  most SBT sell for about $500.00 on the secondary market even when used.   

With the recent passing of Mors I'm going bet the price will increase, and the wait will become even longer.

I just can't figure out why Rod doesn't acknowledge emails, and why his wait is so long.

Watching the recent interview with Mors and Rod, I think it happened way to fast for Rod and he was never able to really get a system in place. He went from being a painter to knifemaker overnight. He didn't even have the proper equipment at that time, he had to sell his car to buy a grinder, and other tooling. I'm sure he had hundreds of orders by that time, and was backlogged before he even started.

You do eventually get your knife if you're willing to wait, but a lot of people aren't. I didn't mind, and had actually forgot I even ordered it, lol. I'm very happy to have it now.

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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2019, 11:22:05 AM »
Post some photos if you can.  I know Moe doesn't.  Did you actually wait six years for this knife? 



What does the current price of a SBT run?  I just went to his website and it says a bit over $200?  If you are a collector of knives then, as Moe points out, it makes sense to buy one.  If you buy one to keep and use forever it doesn't, at least to me.

 The Skokum's run about $300.00 from Rod depending on upgrades,  but the waiting times and Rod's odd business model encourage buying one on the secondary market which a lot of people choose to do,  most SBT sell for about $500.00 on the secondary market even when used.   

With the recent passing of Mors I'm going bet the price will increase, and the wait will become even longer.

I just can't figure out why Rod doesn't acknowledge emails, and why his wait is so long.

Watching the recent interview with Mors and Rod, I think it happened way to fast for Rod and he was never able to really get a system in place. He went from being a painter to knifemaker overnight. He didn't even have the proper equipment at that time, he had to sell his car to buy a grinder, and other tooling. I'm sure he had hundreds of orders by that time, and was backlogged before he even started.

You do eventually get your knife if you're willing to wait, but a lot of people aren't. I didn't mind, and had actually forgot I even ordered it, lol. I'm very happy to have it now.

 I wouldn't bet against you about the price and waiting time increasing on the SBT because of Mors passing, but I kind of doubt they'll appreciate all that much more than they are, at least not overnight.
 I do agree with your assessment of why Rod is too busy to be bothered with letters, phone calls, and e-mails,  I think (as you say) that he wasn't expecting his knife to catch the eye of the bush craft community as fast as it did, he probably got inundated with orders right from the get go and has been playing catch up ever since.
 That's exactly what happened to Joe Honeycut's Black Feather Knife Co. with his version of Mors basic design, he humbly presented his knife at the Knife Show, several prominent u-tube bush craft Guru's did highly favorable reviews and he started getting orders by the truck load,  he tried to keep up but didn't have the ability to organize a working plan and caved under the pressure, his knives however proved to be premo and have appreciated considerably since he quit the business. 
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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2019, 04:28:42 PM »
Thanks for verifying the price and wait time Knifecraft.  Not my cup of tea but I can see where the Mors connection caused demand. 
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Re: Skookum Bush Tool
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2019, 09:16:12 PM »
Wasn't it Mors that renamed/repurposed the old fisherman's Arbor Knot into the famous do-all CANADIAN JAM KNOT? :hail: :rofl:
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2019, 08:01:41 AM »
Wasn't it Mors that renamed/repurposed the old fisherman's Arbor Knot into the famous do-all CANADIAN JAM KNOT? :hail: :rofl:

  I'm a fan of Mors, he doesn't get into knots in his bible the book of Bush Craft, he did pen a pocket pamphlet of woodsman's knots, but doesn't get into their origins,  whether or not he renamed it so I don't know, but he did help to bring it to the attention of bushcrafters and make it more popular than it was. 
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