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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2012, 12:22:54 PM »
Man, I love this.  No, you didn't mislead me.  Thank you for the GREAT inspiration!
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2012, 02:31:26 PM »
Those look more stable than pirogues. This is a great project!

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »
Damn, like I need another project. Crap!

 These are being built with 1/4" X 4' X 8' sheets of plywood? Three sheets? Can you loft it out on a napkin for me "o)

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2012, 06:46:51 PM »
The plans are very detailed.  Yes, a napkin will do. ;)
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2012, 06:49:42 PM »
uh... I did tell you we're buildng these in your shop...right Hush?  Tell Animal to move the bikes, LOL
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2012, 09:12:48 PM »
We still have a little room, been parking the Jeep in there since I took all the doors off.  I'm thinking down the road a bit we'll build a decent stage under the canopy of Oaks facing the front of the barn that can double as a platform for the ladder back for the Shellback Dingy and future cedar strip canoes.

The weekend of Sept. 7th is The Steven Foster Old Time Music Weekend. Jeff, a buddy of mine, even though he does play a banjo, stopped by last night and told me about it, it's all seminars and jam sessions, I'm going.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2012, 10:06:31 AM »
This is a cool thread SwampHanger.  Looking forward to the updates
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2012, 04:33:22 PM »
OK small update. had a few mins. to scarf the bottom together. here are a few pics of the process. If I have time after my guest leave I'm going to try to scarf the sides. Family can interupt the important stuff! Just kidding! I'll be back soon. The goal is to get this thing together by Sunday night and ready for glass.





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« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2012, 04:36:27 PM »
Good pics of the scarf.  Did you just wing the measurements on the bow cuts?  I guess eyeballin' the line works ok?
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2012, 08:03:59 PM »
NO and I read those directions 10x. But what ever width you decide needs to be split off the center then do 13" off each side to 30" or make allowances because of width diff.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2012, 10:17:29 AM »
Well today I got the sides scarf together and the transom cut out. After all the joints dry I start to finish stitching her together. scarfing is not hard but you do need to take your time and you'll get good at it. The better you get the less sanding you will have. I do have some joint sanding to do. :) But it's getting closer. :banana: :banana: :canoe:







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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2012, 10:24:10 AM »
Is the small plastic sheet just being used to keep your clamp board from getting glue on it and possibly sticking to the area you clamped?
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« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2012, 10:26:25 AM »
yes it is just wax paper from the kitchen.

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« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2012, 10:28:21 AM »
yes it is just wax paper from the kitchen.

I thought so, thanks
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« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2012, 08:42:07 AM »
Okay, I finally figured out the bow measurements.  LOL.  Except the "slightly curved" part at the bottom point.  Did you use a radius of some kind?  Gonna check another Lowes today for thinner ply.
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« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2012, 09:17:56 AM »
I just freehand that thing. I want to make it nice but I know that this will not be my last so I'm doing what I think is best. Which is wrong most the time. Lol.  I can post a close up if you'd like when I get home.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2012, 10:18:22 AM »
Oh man, am I having fun, envy me, I spent the better part of yesterday crouching under trusses in the workshop's loft cleaning out hay, old trash and assorted rubbish then sweeping up some of the finest powdered dirt you could imagine, sure am glad I don't have the drugery of being engaged in a fun project, like you guys.

It's raining, I think I'll go stand outside for awhile "o) Just wait, just you guys wait.


Cool projects, I don't even see the light at the end of the tunnel yet.


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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2012, 03:39:38 PM »
hush I have a feeling we all are going to be jealous when you get started. Man you should go to the East side of I75 and go by the butcher shop. That corner used to have a few gents looking for day labor when I ran that neck of the woods. That way you could supervise the not so fun stuff.

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« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2012, 03:52:28 PM »
Yeah, I could but some times I need the boring stuff to give my mind a break from all the boxes and organizing my shop. It seems I'm moving everything at least 5 times before it finds it's place, I think. Well not the anvil at 360 lbs.

I'll get a few pictures of the mess, for posterity.

I did get off the farm last night, I sat in with some guys at the "Rockstar" lounge. Wound up playing most of e second set. Got home around 2:00 am.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2012, 03:58:06 PM »
Well when I retire if I can I hope to stay out till 2am Partying like a Rock Star!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2012, 05:12:16 PM »
I hear ya, it's strange having unknown women come up, hug you and tell ya how great you play.

Scared the hell out of me.


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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2012, 05:49:00 AM »
Alright folks going out to the garage and gonna do some damage on the skiff. Have you ever wondered why everything happens to you or loved ones when you start a project?

1. Coffee made
2. Phone off
3. Young one going off with mommy
4. Need to get ?%?%^%? moving!

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2012, 10:36:26 AM »
 Well so far I have the transom on the sides stitched and the gunnel's are drying up. Hope to be playing with some glass later tonight.





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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2012, 10:50:18 AM »
Great stuff.  What's the trim?  Ply?
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2012, 11:38:21 AM »
1x3 pine riped to 1/2" the second to last pic had ply just to see hoe to work a little bend in the bow. It looked to boxy so I flared it a little. I'll post up some more later when I get alll the c-clamps off.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2012, 12:29:12 PM »
Great project.  I'm looking forward to each of your posts to watch the progress. 
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2012, 01:10:45 PM »
Looks good, nice lines for plywood construction. It looks like the side chine is on the inside of the bottom, am I seeing it right?


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« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2012, 01:14:21 PM »
That would put the end grain out? The only alernative would be to chamfer the edges and negate the ease of build with stitch and glue ply construction.  Yes?
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« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2012, 01:14:35 PM »
Theres no such thing, as too many clamps!  8)   Lookin great so far.
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2012, 01:17:15 PM »
Haven't glue'd that up it just rolled in with the strips.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2012, 01:49:58 PM »
If I can find my Devlin book, I'll look up how he does it.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
Just rolled her over and started glassing the bow and sides at the bow union. Moving pretty good today and very happy with what I got done.  :)









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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2012, 04:50:16 PM »
That is coming along great!!!
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2012, 06:37:09 PM »
Thanks guys! just came in after sanding the rest of the bottom. One quick trip to the depot in the morning and then back to work on it. Plan on floating this thing before next weekend.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2012, 07:32:49 PM »
Gettin' it done brother, I'd still be mulling over plywood "o)

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #85 on: August 25, 2012, 04:52:30 AM »
hushnel when I started this project I decided one of the two routes. Spend a ton of time and cash on something I have no idea what I'm getting into or build and learn on the cheap side. I picked this design because of the fact that people built these out of anything in the day. They have a huge margin for error. After going to many piroque sites they pretty much build in this fashion now. I'm building a beater and user if she doesn't hold up then I will build something else or buy new. If you price everything top quality in this process I could damn near buy that canoe you have that I like so much. :) As Max brought up he might change some things if he builds one. No one will know unless there's one to try out. And everyone will get a chance at our next meet. When I would fish in Louisiana I saw plenty of water craft that made ya wonder about the limits of plywood.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #86 on: August 25, 2012, 05:12:05 AM »
A couple of questions please:

Does anyone ever put a keel or chines on one of these to add to stability and make them track better? 

Do you have any concerns about the plywood delaminating?  If so would marine grade ply be a better choice for long term durability?
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #87 on: August 25, 2012, 06:33:16 AM »
SwampHanger, I surely understand that way of thinking. Actually I admire it. The only thing I'd ever heard derogatory about standard US Plywood for boat building is voids ( those football shaped plugs ) are only filled on surface laminations, those on the interior are not. Doesn't mean you won't get plenty of years of use out of it. I read too much.

Sam Devlin does nice work with plywood and swears by wood in boat building, what your doing is making a full sized model that is practical and fully functional and if you ever decide to do another, like you said, you'll know what to look for and have some material and technical knowledge. Very cool.

One of Devlin's little stitch and glue boats.


Oh, the Kevlar Wee Lassie was kind of an impulse buy, I blew a lot of bucks on that boat, my wife's Kayak, a couple revolvers and the Bazer rifle with overtime money a few years back. I wanted to turn the cash into durable goods before I retired. The money, one way or an other would be gone now but I still have all the junk I purchased.

Nothing teaches you about a technique better than doing it, as craftsmen, we have that in common "o) As soon as I get some more of my junk stashed away in the work shop I'll build the new ladder back for the Shellback Dingy I started a while back.

Wilderbeast,
In small boats I don't like keels, they affect the ability to make tight turns, in larger boats being used on larger bodies of water they are usefull, not so much for tracking straight but more for lateral slippage caused by wind, in my opinion.

Well, I've got to get going, big day today, Tim is coming over to plow up my fall garden, and I want to run the metal detector over it, Animal and I are riding the bikes to Stark for some kind of motorcycle event and I have two instruments I started, on my bench, that I keep wandering over too trying to keep progress moving.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #88 on: August 25, 2012, 09:20:42 AM »
Sounds like a lot of cool projects have found you. Your in a great area for that metal detector as well. My friend that lives in Welborn is able to grow asparagus and has a nice bed.(FYI) Not everyone likes them but wish i could grow them down here.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #89 on: August 25, 2012, 04:01:43 PM »
Glass and sanding and paint! 1st coat




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« Reply #90 on: August 25, 2012, 04:22:31 PM »
Couple questions....You just used the one coat of fiberglass, correct?  if so, how many coats of paint do you plan on putting on and is the paint a special marine paint or just an ordinary oil base

2, Have you already put the fillets along the seams inside?... thanks
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2012, 01:01:25 AM »
This is coming along fast! This is really inspiring, seeing what one can accomplish with a little determination. You will have it on the water in no time!

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« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2012, 04:23:39 AM »
zammer. 1 layer of glass and Two coats of paint when finished. Oil base rustolem.  Then turn her over and work on the inside joints. And will glass all the inside seams. Shape the gunnel rail and paint.
Just trying to as much as possible without flipping all the time.

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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2012, 09:25:04 AM »
zammer. 1 layer of glass and Two coats of paint when finished. Oil base rustolem.  Then turn her over and work on the inside joints. And will glass all the inside seams. Shape the gunnel rail and paint.
Just trying to as much as possible without flipping all the time.

Thanks, very interesting project to watch unfold.
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« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2012, 02:52:06 PM »
Has the christening taken place, yet?

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« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2012, 03:01:48 PM »
That boat looks great! Very inspirational project.
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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2012, 06:29:15 AM »
Sorry guys even though we didn't get hurt by the storm being a tree guy been real busy.  After I drop the little man off at school I'm spending the next two days in finish mode. Pics to come later.

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Re: Building my Everglades Skiff
« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2012, 10:56:47 AM »
Awesome, cant wait to see the results! This has been a great one to follow along with. You really have accomplished a lot in a short time.

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« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2012, 03:13:58 PM »
TO any Capt. or Navy Folk I need to know if naming a vessel after your bride is "Bad Luck"? I know the whole chic thing but us AF boys only named things after star athletes! ;) If you gents don't mind I would give many thanks. I 'll let out a secret my father was a true FROG MAN but I lost him 10 yrs ago. We always had a little thing back and forth! That's why I give squids more negative Love! Besides they did second best on their ASFAB"S. JK thanks in Advance.

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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2012, 03:33:05 PM »
I'm not a Navy man, but I do know that Forrest Gump named his shrimp boat after his 'Jenny' and became a rich man in The Bubba Gump Shrimp Company :canoe:
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