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Improved axe sheath
« on: June 27, 2013, 10:09:58 PM »
I have this little Plumb hatchet I picked up cheap. I like it and made a leather sheath for it. I keep the sheath on it when using the hammer face. The last time it was used putting tent stakes in rocky soil in Coloardo it cut through the stitching. I used a little Kydex and reinforced it . We are going to Minnosota camping for a week so I should have time to see if my fix holds up.



I cut the handle down and reprofiled the face. Now it's a good little chopper.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 10:26:40 PM »
Necessity is the mother of invention! :thumbsup: :cheers:
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 11:29:39 PM »
Those little shingle hammers make pretty neat camp hatchets.  Cool pants you got for it there.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 02:14:36 PM »
lgm

What is the black stuff on the sheath in one of your pictures.?  A nice design.. simple and efficient.. What more could one ask.?

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 02:49:54 PM »
looks excellent.  Looking forward to how it holds up.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 04:27:50 PM »
Chris, that is a cool fix for your sheath. 
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2013, 11:22:16 AM »
lgm

What is the black stuff on the sheath in one of your pictures.?  A nice design.. simple and efficient.. What more could one ask.?

A good useful hatchet.
When the edge cut through the sheath as it was being used as a hammer I reinforced it with Kydex. I used it on a week long camping trip I just returned from but I have not used the hammer yet. I think it will hold.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 11:47:28 AM »
lgm

Good idea..  Let us know how it holds up, I suspect it will work out well.

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 09:08:04 AM »
Nice sheath Igm!  I've had the same thing happen to me, I take the sheath off now if I have to use the poll as a hammer.   ;)

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 02:43:37 PM »
As my Gram'ma used to say, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

My solution was to take a piece of copper roof flashing, fold it around a 1/4" rod so I had a "U" shaped fold in it.   Then I slipped a scrap of leather inside the copper and then slipped the whole shebang inside the sheath.   Now, if you can envision that, the result is a piece of leather for the axe edge to contact, with the copper shield between it and the actual sheath.  The sheath can remain over the edge while using the poll to hammer stakes and wedges without the worry of inertia causing the axe edge to cut the actual sheath leather.  It's been working for 38 years, as near as I can figure. :P
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 05:43:16 PM »
For safety & with scouts I like to leave it sheathed. If mine lasts half as long as Wolfys I will be happy.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 07:37:43 AM »
The method that Wolfy describes is similar to what some of the manufacturers do, they sew a welt into their sheaths that is made out of a plastic or nylon material.

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Improved axe sheath
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 08:07:32 AM »
Cool. Did it cut through because of the hammering or from normal wear and tear.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 09:05:46 AM »
It cut through form hammering, the strap is not real tight so inertia just pushed it through.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 10:27:30 AM »
I like it. Wolfy's idea is a good one. Your method is cool no matter :)

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2013, 09:13:21 AM »
For safety & with scouts I like to leave it sheathed. If mine lasts half as long as Wolfys I will be happy.

I know this may seem counterintuitive and I don't mean to be contrary but from a safety stand point it would be safer to remove the sheath/blade mask when using the poll as a hammer.  The whole point of a sheath/blade mask is to make your axe safe to transport, once it has been compromised it's no longer safe for transporting.  Even if your sheath remains intact after using the poll as a hammer what you have essentially done is dull the bit of your axe (and even more so if you've reenforced the mask with something like copper or plastic).  And we all know that a dull blade is a dangerous blade.

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2013, 10:37:08 AM »
As they say, YMMV, but like I said in my first post, I've been using that method for 38 years (as near as I can figure) and I've never even had to replace the leather that protects the edge from the copper.  That copper flashing is about as soft as lead anyway, & I can't imagine it damaging an edge even if it did contact it. ???    Leaving the mask on the axe while going around the tent hammering in stakes, tying knots, adjusting guy lines, laying it down & picking up again just seems more safe to me than using a naked axe with the possibility of accidentally stepping on it or damaging the edge by contact with rocks, etc.  Bottom line....do what you feel most comfortable in doing, but you ain't gon'na hurt the axe edge with that leather/copper sheath insert in place and using it to pound tent stakes while it's on the axe! O:-)
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Improved axe sheath
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2013, 02:34:00 PM »
Ingenuousness sheath....great work

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2013, 02:50:11 PM »
As they say, YMMV, but like I said in my first post, I've been using that method for 38 years (as near as I can figure) and I've never even had to replace the leather that protects the edge from the copper.  That copper flashing is about as soft as lead anyway, & I can't imagine it damaging an edge even if it did contact it. ???    Leaving the mask on the axe while going around the tent hammering in stakes, tying knots, adjusting guy lines, laying it down & picking up again just seems more safe to me than using a naked axe with the possibility of accidentally stepping on it or damaging the edge by contact with rocks, etc.  Bottom line....do what you feel most comfortable in doing, but you ain't gon'na hurt the axe edge with that leather/copper sheath insert in place and using it to pound tent stakes while it's on the axe! O:-)

Keeping the mask on, taking it off while hamming is personal preference and I don't buck anybody for that...  I'm just saying that a case could be made that keeping it on could be more dangerous in the long term.


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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2013, 07:36:47 PM »
You might be right WW. I think it will take some time before I cuts through. I will keep my eye on it. As for dulling it I doubt it would dull it any more then using it would.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2013, 06:12:05 PM »
Very nice. I made one similar to this. While I don't have pics of it I did use floral wire to "thread" it together:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Floral-Wire/17422634

My hatchet is the next-larger brother to yours. The hatchet itself, I sharpened to midway between "common axe" 'short' edge and the 'long' edge of a razor. It's incredibly sharp [for an axe] but not sharp enough to shave with.

The wire does an excellent job of fending off "cut-through."

The "how" i did it:

* Cut the leather to about 1/4" longer/wider than needed but in the shapes required.
* Soak the leather for about an hour in warm water.
* remove from water to let dry [will take hours, perhaps up to 2 days].
* Cement the halves [and any spacer you might use] at where the edge sits in the pocket. Let cure.
* using a .5 mm drill bit, mark and drill the hardened leather so you can stitch it with the wire. I used a "whip stitch."
* Cut a piece of leather to cover the wire and Stamp an ornamental design on the face. Cement over the unsightly 
   wire.

Works great and have used it Camping/hiking for over 10 years. No cut-through.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2013, 07:50:28 PM »
Wire was a great idea. Might give it a try.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2013, 08:09:19 AM »
Nice sheath Igm!  I've had the same thing happen to me, I take the sheath off now if I have to use the poll as a hammer.   ;)

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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2013, 08:55:44 AM »
I don't mean to ask a dumb question, but did the original sheath have a welt sewn in between the two layers of leather?
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2013, 04:01:50 PM »
Good question, No I made the sheath I did not use a welt.
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Re: Improved axe sheath
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2013, 05:28:14 PM »
I had the same problem cutting through a sheath using the poll on my trail hawk as a hammer to assemble some bookshelves. :D