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DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« on: March 29, 2014, 09:37:28 AM »
I thought I would share the process of making a set of woopies for your hammock. I'm sure I will miss a few steps but I will try to show all of the steps. The woopie sling works on the principles of a Chinese finger trap but on rope.

UW had mentioned he likes to use the UCR instead of woopies to save on rope. UCR could also be made by rearranging the skills in this thread.

Materials for this project:
Amsteel rope 7/64 size, 30 feet total
A piece of small wire about 30 inches
wire cutters
razor blade or sharp knife
a small pony plastic bead (optional)

Hope you enjoy this.

First you would need to cut the rope to the desired length to make the size of woopie you would need. For this woopie I cut the rope at 15 feet to make an approximate woopie sling about 6.6 feet. Next you measure for the Brummel lock loop which is the end connecting to the hammock. For the Skeeter Beater Pro you will need about a 3 - 3.5 loop and the bury after the splice, for this 5 inches is more than enough. To summarize a folded loop equals 6 inches + 5 inches for the bury.



Next you are going to bend your wire in half and squeeze the fold. then measure where you need to insert the wire to make the first loop. This next step is the hardest part, you need to push the rope together to open it up and insert the loop of your wire splitting the amsteel evenly with 4 sections above the wire and 4 sections below the wire.



Next you will open the folded loop in your wire and insert just the end of your amsteel into the loop and then squeeze the loop flat with your fingers or pliers. It sometimes helps to fold the small end back near the amsteel to create a fold in the rope. Note you can add a small welded ring to tie a structure ridge line or a line above you to hand other objects.



Next you will pull the wire back through the amsteel to form the first loop. Pull gently and it should flow through.



Another pic.



Part two of the Brummel lock loop. Next you will need to repeat the previous process but instead of the main rope you will need to do it the tag end that you just pulled through the running length of rope. Like such.



Another view when Spyder was making his woopie slings.



Now you need to pull all of the rope through to complete the second part of the locked stich.



Should look like this.



Different view.



Now you need to pull the two together to create the locking part of this and should look like this.



Now the final part of this Brummel Lock loop the bury. Place the loose end next to the rope to measure where you will need to insert your wire. I like to enter at least an inch below the tag end. So you will need to push the rope together to open it up and insert your wire and push it all the way to the end and then out. Now you need to open the fold in the wire and insert the end like before.



Now slowly pull the wire through the rope bringing the tag end inside of the main rope and then bring the tag end out of the rope. it is recommend to cut the end at a 45 degree angle to create a taper in the splice.



To finish this splice grab the rope by the loop and slid your hand down the rope to work out the compressed rope and you are done with end!




The next part of the woopie sling is the adjustable part of the sling. Place your fixed loop that we complete on your work surface, if you want to add the small plastic bead to keep you adjustable loop from closing on it's self add the bead on to the rope from the long end. Now you will need to measure a couple of inches from the previous loop and this spot will be where you will enter the rope with the wire for 12 inches and then exit the rope. Then reconnect rope end to wire.



Now you are ready to pull the running end through it's self to create the adjustable loop. You are a Pro at this now so pull slowly like before until end comes out.



To finish off the woopie sling it is nice create an end splice on the new tag end to make it fatter and less likely to get pulled back through the woopie.

Create about a 4 inch fold in the tag end and then insert your wire the same way as before about 6 inches from the fold.



Begin to pull wire slowly through rope as before. then pull end out and cut at a 45 degree angle.





Starting from the end squeeze rope and slide your hand back to smooth out the compressed rope and you are finished.



That completes one of your woopie slings. Go make another woopie, attach to hammock and enjoy your new lightweight and fully adjustable hammock suspension.



Connecting the locked loop to end of hammock. Run the lock loop through the sew channel by pulling the woopie through using the old rope. Once the end of the loop comes out of the hammock channel insert the other end of the woopie sling through the loop to create a larks hitch / cow hitch. Note in picture you can see the optional ring added to the fixed loop.



Spyder enjoying his hammock with his new woopie slings!



Thank you for checking this out and if you need any help or pointers let me know.

Average time for a first timer 20-30 per sling I would estimate.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 09:48:12 AM »
Great instructional Ron :thumbsup:
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 09:49:00 AM »
I'm going to need remediation.  lol.  When are you rolling into Kicco?
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 10:01:13 AM »
Thanks for sharing 8)

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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 10:55:40 AM »
Thanks guys. I just hope it will others out here on the forum.

If I go to Kicco Tony probably Thursday to Saturday morning. We can build you a set then just bring your rope.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »
Great instructions and pics greyhound, thanks  :cheers:
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 11:21:52 AM »
great tutorial, thanks for sharing.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 01:16:18 PM »
Excellent instructions Ron, and perfect timing. I just received your shipment of 100 ft. of Amsteel. Looks like I have a project tomorrow, woopie.

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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 01:37:48 PM »
Nice tutorial!  And Thank You for posting it all up

I've never made, or used, whoopies; but I understand that a lot of folks do, and like them a lot.

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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 02:57:07 PM »
Nice job! Thanks for putting that together

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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 03:30:04 PM »
I don't own a hammock, but that was one heck of a good tutorial! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:    Where do I get some amsteel cordage?  I would guess that it's non-stretch? :shrug:
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 03:46:14 PM »
Nice tutorial!  And Thank You for posting it all up

I've never made, or used, whoopies; but I understand that a lot of folks do, and like them a lot.

u.w.

Yes a lot of people do use them but I'm more interested in the UCR that you have brought to my attention.

I am planning on doing an adjustable ridge line for my hammock with a UCR style.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 03:54:07 PM »
I don't own a hammock, but that was one heck of a good tutorial! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:    Where do I get some amsteel cordage?  I would guess that it's non-stretch? :shrug:

Wolfy amsteel is all over eBay for the size the hammock people use, 7/64 of an inch, for $25-30 shipped. I usually buy a 600 foot spool break it down and sell it at our meets for $20 per 100 feet.

The specs on this size 7/64 of an inch are breaking strength at 1600 pounds, minimal stretch, it floats, non fraying, the one problem I have heard about it is slippery an some knots will slip.

A lot of people are using for winch lines which you will see on eBay.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 04:01:53 PM »
I carry an extra hank of it in case trees are to far apart. The guys on the Suwannee trip can tell ya I made up a pretty good span to make a hang work the first night. Good to have.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 04:25:17 PM »
Thank you, both! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2014, 04:37:42 PM »
Nice tutorial!  And Thank You for posting it all up

I've never made, or used, whoopies; but I understand that a lot of folks do, and like them a lot.

u.w.

Yes a lot of people do use them but I'm more interested in the UCR that you have brought to my attention.

I am planning on doing an adjustable ridge line for my hammock with a UCR style.

unless u.w. beats me to it... I will do a post on u.c.r construction soon...
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2014, 09:20:26 AM »
Nice tutorial!  And Thank You for posting it all up

I've never made, or used, whoopies; but I understand that a lot of folks do, and like them a lot.

u.w.

Yes a lot of people do use them but I'm more interested in the UCR that you have brought to my attention.

I am planning on doing an adjustable ridge line for my hammock with a UCR style.

unless u.w. beats me to it... I will do a post on u.c.r construction soon...

I bought a hammock two yrs ago and have not yet had a chance to use it, I have heard of the Woopie slings but what in tarnation is a u.c.r ?  thanks  :cheers:
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2014, 11:09:25 AM »
Ron Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed learning this method and thanks for teaching and helping setting up my hammock, this is really a great way to hang.  :thumbsup:
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2014, 01:07:35 PM »
not to hijack, but here's a link to the thread i did on UCRs. i also added a video on the end. basically instead of a prussik for the slider and a locked brummel for the loops, i did a whip knot (thanks u.w.) and sewed the loops.

http://bladesandbushcraft.com/index.php?topic=7835
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 01:45:40 PM »
Brilliant tutorial GH, I'll be switching over to amsteel woopie from webbing straps.   :thumbsup: 

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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2014, 02:12:51 PM »
I have a hammock I like to use from time to time. I am not clear exactly what a woopie or UCR is. Is it just different ways to rigg a hammock?
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2014, 07:38:33 PM »
not to hijack, but here's a link to the thread i did on UCRs. i also added a video on the end. basically instead of a prussik for the slider and a locked brummel for the loops, i did a whip knot (thanks u.w.) and sewed the loops.

http://bladesandbushcraft.com/index.php?topic=7835


Watched the vid - looks good.  You're welcome on the whipnot thing, I like it over the prussik after trying both.  I enjoyed hanging out with you and Roy that night. 


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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2014, 07:49:01 PM »
I have a hammock I like to use from time to time. I am not clear exactly what a woopie or UCR is. Is it just different ways to rigg a hammock?


In short: Yes


Greyhound did a Really Great tutorial here, on how to put together a whoopie sling.  Some of the whoopies advantages are (as I understand them): light weight, compact, very high strength to weight ration (depending on material), easy to make (thanks to GH's great tutorial), within it's range - adjustable to fractions of an inch.


A properly made UCR does the same, but uses about half the material. 


Both are, or can be, used to suspend a hammock.


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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2014, 06:07:45 AM »
We'll put UW.

A lot of companies sell woopies premade for those that don't want to hassle building them.

 If you buy a 100 feet of amsteel you can build your woopies and have enough amsteel to make a tarp ridgeline and 4 small tie outs with the left overs.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2014, 06:11:10 AM »
How long is your ridgeline, Ron?
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2014, 09:00:36 AM »
How long is your ridgeline, Ron?

I think it was 33 feet. I wish it was longer, and I will probably be making another one about 40 feet long. Some of these massive oaks take 15 feet to go around them.

The good thing about this rope is so small and light I don't mind carrying the longer length.
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2014, 09:03:26 AM »
I've been a sailor for coming on 24 years and I've got to tell you that's one of the best explanations I've ever seen of doing an eye splice in braided line.
Nicely done.
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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2014, 10:27:18 AM »
I've been a sailor for coming on 24 years and I've got to tell you that's one of the best explanations I've ever seen of doing an eye splice in braided line.
Nicely done.


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Re: DIY Woopie Instructions (picture overload)
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2014, 12:49:31 PM »
Awesome!

I love the hollow braid ropes for their ease of splicing. There are so many cool things you can do with ropes and cords like this.

Thanks for sharing the tutorial with us! This one should definitely go in the tutorials thread.

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2014, 05:23:23 PM »
Between the great tutorial & the informative video from bighat I think I understand. Thanks.
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