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« on: June 14, 2014, 03:16:23 PM »
Tax return time around here, and so that means some mad money! :) I bought a few things including a new knife.

But first, hold on to your hats, I have a confession to make.

I've kinda fallen off the Grohmann bandwagon. While I still like my older #4 (and my old Bird and Trout) I've had to admit that the last few Grohmann knives I've acquired haven't been making the cut.  (Pun intended) 8)  So, sadly, I'm not really feelin' the luv these days...  The end of an era. 

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Enter my newest knife: the TripleX Knives Forester.

These knives are made to order in Frankville, Nova Scotia (same province, coincidentally, as Grohmann) but their designs are much more 'bushcrafty' than the Grohmann. I ordered mine in 1/8" steel, as I was looking for a thinner bladed, full tang scandi. It's in L6 steel (which I know next to nothing about) and it has curly Canadian Maple handle scales. It is certainly awesome enough to rival the other 3 non-production (ie, 'custom') knives I own.

I should say, I've got absolutely nothing to do with anyone at this place; all my impressions are mine alone. I decided to do a YouTube video (in which, by the way, I misspeak often (so please don't flame me bad) in order to help others who might want to look at this knife but have nothing to compare it to. It's a loooong video too - sorry - so I understand if you don't wanna watch it all.

Here's a few stills, and then the video to follow:

First off, a bit of a laugh at the post office wondering with the local clerks would gossip about when they saw the return address was "TripleX"... lol! Wonder if they thought I was ordering porn... :) :rolleyes:













Here's a kinda long video:



I understand if you didn't watch it all - or even didn't watch it at all. No worries. I do mention, however, my Redlore :drool: and that Red "made for me" when he obviously didn't... I have no idea why I said that, other than maybe I feel like it WAS indeed made for me! (I love that Redlore!) And guys, this knife is in that category for me - so far. It's one of four favourite custom knives I own!

I LOVE my new knife.

There's another in my future too, I hope: The Nor'easter.

Check these knives out at www.xxxknives.com (BTW, can I add this link, here? If not, someone please delete that for me? Thanks! :))
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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 03:38:29 PM »
Judas :popcorn:
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 04:00:42 PM »
Judas :popcorn:
LOL! Wuffy, what are you trying to say?

Listen, my Grohmann #3 came in with an uneven grind, a poor edge, and handle corners that - honestly - look like they weren't even sanded. Granted, it WAS a "second" BUT they assure you that has nothing to do with the blade. The blemish around the lanyard hole was the supposed blemish that got it discounted, so what's with the rest of the knife?  No my friend, the original 'original' (#1) was something to be proud of owning, but these later ones, IMHO, just aren't the same somehow...

And believe me, it pains me, as a proud Canadian, to say it...

And I learn more all the time, which I can't share, that leads me to despair... :(

But you noticed, I'm still a fan of the #4 - especially the older ones! :)
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 04:09:24 PM »
I'm gonna have to look at the video later, but that's a great looking knife, and the work on their webside looks great as well.  Seems like their prices are a good value for a custom knife, sheath and worldwide shipping!  I'd say 'ya done good KK!!

And I won't say anything about being a Judas- I KNOW you've been a strong and proud supporter of Grohman knives for a LONG time.  Sounds like you've had some info that concerned you and looked at another maker.  Hopefully, Grohman will hear of these things and make the necessary changes.

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 04:39:07 PM »
Thanks Dano! It's really, for me, about my new knife, and not my disappointment with my Grohmanns. :)

I like this knife a LOT! It's just my size and fits me perfectly. As far as a scandi woods knife and light use camp knife, I'd say it's going to be excellent. Like I said in the video, I was afraid it might be a little 'blocky' in the handle, but it's anything but.

I can't say enough about how much I love this blade so far. Something about it's size just speaks to me, and I'm sure others here would feel the same. I like the 1/8" thick blade, but would love to also see what this would have been like in the 3/16th range too...

And I won't say anything about being a Judas- I KNOW you've been a strong and proud supporter of Grohman knives for a LONG time.  Sounds like you've had some info that concerned you and looked at another maker.  Hopefully, Grohman will hear of these things and make the necessary changes.
And yeah, exactly that^. Thanks!

There's been a few things I've heard from sources I trust, or at least have no reason to doubt, that all lead me to wonder if things are going the way they should 'over there.' You know, for a big country, there's not many of us, so I think Canadians in general would wish Grohmann well, but there's a point where you have to put national pride to the side... YMMV.
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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 06:56:02 PM »
I like it KK! And your not alone almost all our knife companies make import crap now.

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 10:06:57 PM »
Congrats on your new blade, KK! Looks like you did your homework and made a good choice. I love it   :drool:

I've been all over the spectrum with blade thickness... it's gotta be 3/16"... ooh, this 1/4" is nice... but I'm gravitating more and more to 1/8" for a blade that will see action on a regular basis. JMHO.

Great video, too. Nice job.

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 10:23:43 PM »
Nice review and great job on the video, KK. Very nice and polished. :thumbsup:

Looks like a fine blade you've got there. I'm sure it'll serve you well. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2014, 06:57:46 AM »
Thanks guys!

Heheheh, I couldn't wait to share it with y'all. I wish i had the coin to do a pass around with this knife. That handle is generous and at 1/8" it's a slicer! I might have to watch it on hardwood etc., though, I think, being a thinner blade.

I'm guardedly optimistic that this might be my main user!
Wouldn't that be something!
... I've been all over the spectrum with blade thickness... it's gotta be 3/16"... ooh, this 1/4" is nice... but I'm gravitating more and more to 1/8" for a blade that will see action on a regular basis. JMHO.
Fer sure, me too! I found, finally, that my preferred thickness in most blades would be 1/8". Mind you, I don't "abuse" my knives like a lot of people talk about; I don't hold back, either. I'm just common sensible about it. And I split wood with my axe. ;)
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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 07:56:26 AM »
As long as one is not trying to cleave gnarled and knot-filled oak stumps, I find very little need for any knife that I take to the woods to be over 1/8" thick.  That's why I traded the Becker BK-2 to Pat for the Grohmann #4.  I like the #4, but like any knife, it has its place and is not 'perfect' for all tasks.  This new Triplex reminds me a bit of Dad's old Brusseletto/Morseth that I inherited.  It takes a wicked edge, retains it for quite a long time, is a very useful & straightforward design, has a larger handle than most of my other knives and is right at, or slightly under 1/8" thick.  Truth be told, it was the knife I first took to the woods to field-dress a deer and whittle camp gadgets for my camping merit badge in Scouts and quite possibly the only knife I would have needed for everything I use a knife for in the woods.......THERE'S a scary thought! :shocked: :doh:
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 07:27:01 PM »
Great video. I was unfamiliar with the brand. It is a great looking blade. I like the way you talk :)

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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2014, 06:33:50 AM »
Great video. I was unfamiliar with the brand. It is a great looking blade. I like the way you talk :)

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Thanks Creek! :)

Re: the brand: it's a little company that's (apparently, so they say) been growing a lot in the last couple years. In an email he said that his 'thing' is to never compromise on steel quality. He told me that he's going for good steel that is affordable and he also told me to use my knife like I stole it. :) Seems like a decent enough chap in emails. And I know he makes a good blade.

Funny, but I hate the way I talk and sound... :P :shrug:
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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2014, 03:26:42 PM »
Nice review there!
I agree, TripleX makes good knives. They have good designs and use tried and true materials.
Mind you, I never handled this particular model, but I had used other ones.
That L6 takes a wicked edge doesn't it? :)
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2014, 05:53:04 PM »
Nice review there!
I agree, TripleX makes good knives. They have good designs and use tried and true materials.
Mind you, I never handled this particular model, but I had used other ones.
That L6 takes a wicked edge doesn't it? :)
Hey buddy!

Ya, I said it a lot in this review, and it's hard to judge from watching a video, but yeah, that's a sharp knife. Like I said about half a dozen times :rolleyes:, it is by far and away the sharpest knife I got from any one to date. People mightn't believe me, so I hesitate to say, but that knife was sharper than any mora I recall getting. In fact the only knife I own that seems as sharp is my little orange Hultafors. :shrug:
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2014, 07:21:38 PM »
I think Grohmann really needs to update their knives a little bit. Steel and handle materials, etc.. But I digress ...
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2014, 07:28:26 PM »
I think Grohmann really needs to update their knives a little bit. Steel and handle materials, etc.. But I digress ...
I like the wood because it's very attractive to MY eye and I have never broken the handle on a knife yet, but I agree that their choice of blade-steel could use a kick in the hindquarters. 8)
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2014, 07:33:44 PM »
Yes, wood is fine, but it could be a wider variety of wood and synthetic materials. Also, QC seems relaxed a bit.
But I should not hijack this thread...  O:-)
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2014, 08:31:12 PM »
Yes, wood is fine, but it could be a wider variety of wood and synthetic materials. Also, QC seems relaxed a bit.
But I should not hijack this thread...  O:-)
No hijack. I brought it up. :)



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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2014, 09:09:58 PM »
Well.. OK.
I think they (Grohmann) really should do something in order to keep themselves in the competition. If not, they could end up like other great Canadian companies who did not keep up with the changing times and demands. (Eaton's for instance)
I really like their designs, but you can get the same designs from other companies with more up to date materials (although those are not Canadian).
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2014, 08:26:31 PM »
Do you know what their stainless steel is? I've been hearing lately some different things about it...
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2014, 08:54:18 PM »
Grohmann uses 4110 stainless steel according to their website which according to them is comparable to the USA 440 series.  Since 440A, 440B, and 440C all have different qualities, I'm not sure what the heck that is supposed to mean.  From their web site:

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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2014, 12:14:37 AM »
That's correct Imnukensc.
WNR (Werkst.Nr.) 1.4110 is a popular German cutlery steel. To the best of my limited knowledge, the closest US equivalent is 440A.
I'm not aware of any changes in their choice of blade steel...
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2014, 06:31:12 PM »
Well, my latest knife from them seems to me to be very much like some cheaper SS knives I've had in the past. I've been wondering what kind of steel they've been using. I don't mean to sound snarky, but they seem to be, as some already said above, heading down the wrong road like so many other domestic companies, IMHO.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2014, 09:34:44 AM »
Hey KK , nice looking string cutter , you should have had it dropped shipped here so I could have started a pass around with that one for you LOL

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2014, 12:15:39 PM »
Hey KK , nice looking string cutter , you should have had it dropped shipped here so I could have started a pass around with that one for you LOL
Wow! I never thought of that! Next time!

Maybe...

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2014, 10:04:55 AM »
They make some really good looking blades!

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2014, 02:34:22 PM »
They make some really good looking blades!
Yes they sure do. :drool:
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2014, 07:19:58 PM »
I know this is a bit of an old thread but I picked up a couple of TripleX knives myself and thought I'd add a few comments. I am in the USA but just liked the look of these and what I saw on the Youtube reviews. I wanted a more handcrafted item from a small shop than from one of the big makers.

So, I got the Canadian Bushman which I already know is going to be my main carry for the woods as it just fits well in my hand and seems easy to control for more detailed stuff like notching and a bit of heavy whittling. The Bushman is in O1 steel and mine has the roasted ash scales. Love the pouch style sheath.

I also got the Forester which even though it has a similar blade length and thickness just seems like a much larger knife once in the hand. The Forester is from L6 steel and Derrick made mine up with the same roasted ash as I wanted both knives to match. These have a nice contour with a choil for the index finger to fall into and from the top it has an hourglass shape. Mine is not very symmetrical though so the hand fit is a little off and I may have to rework the grip to fit my hand a bit better. One side of the scales is considerably thicker than the other and not very rounded. My Condor Bushlore has more uniform scales than this so it is a bit of a let down.

Both of these came right from TripleX and were ready to ship within a week of my ordering which was nice and shipping took just about a week. It is nice that you can substitute any of his available woods for the scales since most of the knives are built when you order then.


These look like very tough, usable knives with a more utilitarian finish that say a L.T. Wright knife. I looked at a Genesis and it really looked too perfect to use. More of a work of art than a tool. The TripleX knives are nicely made but not the same sense of finish and symmetry. Unlike my Bushlore which looks like basic materials and basic construction these look like quality steel and wood but with utilitarian construction, nicely finished but could use a little more QC. Scales may be heavier on one side than the other and the plunge line at the end of the scandi grind is going to be a little rough where each successive pass on the wheel shows.. The scandi itself is flawless, just where it ends near the scales is inconsistent and rough. I expected this to some extent but I do wish they were a bit more uniform, especially on the scales. Most Wrights and BHK knives I have seen look like exact clones of each other as if a CNC machine made them and that is not the look I wanted either. I'd rather have a bit of hand made variation on my knives. The Bushman looks much more consistant than the Foresters I received.

The L6 and O1 steels will age nicely with use and will be indestructible. It is also nice that both came with a true 0 deg, grind so the user has the option of running it as it comes (with care) or stropping and/or stoning their own degree of micro bevel or convex on the final edge. While the L.T. Wright knives promote their 0 deg, grind the knives are all then hard buffed to a micro convex which makes the edges just like any other production scandi out there. With TripleX, 0 degree, means 0 degree.

So, overall really good quality tools with first class materials and robust construction but with more functional, rather than finished workmanship. If you want a hand made working tool, with a nice natural, classic look these are for you. If you are more collector and want a showpiece for your display case, well, not so much. Very reasonably priced too especially with the USA to Canadian $ conversion and the TripleX free shipping, even to the States. While there are some negatives, and that I am a very picky customer being a metal and wood craftsman myself, there is nothing here that detracts from the function or use in one of these knives. They are clearly made to do the job and both the design and materials are first class and a good value for the very reasonable cost especially compared to most other bushcraft knives out there.
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 07:43:52 AM »
Heirphoto, great summation.

I originally ordered my Forrester in 1/8 of an inch. I experienced some chipping with the edge. I contacted Derrick, and he suggested that I put a small secondary convex grind on it. He also told me that the heat treat was off which made the blade too brittle. I did convex the blade, and now it works great. In my mind, I have had a lot of zero ground Scandi blades chip out on me. I think of the Enzo trapper as one notable example. So, it is not unusual for me to have to put a small secondary convex edge on a zero ground Scandi blade.

However, I also got a new Forrester which I am not as pleased with. The plunge lines are exactly as you describe - they look like they were chewed by a metal-eating beaver! Also, the overall shape of the blade was slightly off, with a little bit sticking out below the handles near where the blade meets the handle. Overall, I am pleased with the overall design as I outlined above, but I am less than pleased with the quality and finish of the second one.

I feel like you - these are good working tools. I am a little disappointed with the one Forrester, but the original Forrester is very good.

I would like to try the bushman, and perhaps a few other models of his, but after my second Forrester, I wonder if I will. Maybe he has a new guy working in the shop? Either way that second knife kind of poured water on my triple X fire.

If I were you, and I know you're not asking for advice, but I would definitely send the knife back and ask him to pay all shipping costs. There's no way that knife should've left the shop as it did.

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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2014, 08:29:59 AM »

I originally ordered my Forrester in 1/8 of an inch. I experienced some chipping with the edge. I contacted Derrick, and he suggested that I put a small secondary convex grind on it. He also told me that the heat treat was off which made the blade too brittle. I did convex the blade, and now it works great. In my mind, I have had a lot of zero ground Scandi blades chip out on me. I think of the Enzo trapper as one notable example. So, it is not unusual for me to have to put a small secondary convex edge on a zero ground Scandi blade.

 

He knew the heat treat was off?  He should have sent you a new knife and either recycled the old one or just let you keep it.  I wouldn't buy a knife from a maker who told me the heat treat was off and still sent the knives out.  If he didn't know the heat treat was bad at finish then his production methods and testing are poor.  This is the same guy that you said in an earlier post told you he was always about the quality of the steel? 

I don't blame you for being leery of this guys knives and an glad to know about it so I don't buy one either.
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 10:13:31 AM »
Duplicate post. Sorry.
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2014, 10:15:50 AM »
Stan, he did make it right. You astutely nailed it, and in fairness to him, he did  make it right - at least in his mind he did. (See pics below and be your own judge...)

The problem is the replacement wasn't up to the standards I'd expect from any professional knife maker.

Truly, my plunge lines on my two backyard file knives, ground on a 1" belt, are much, much cleaner than the one I got. Also, there were a few other fairly obvious issues I had. Pics to follow...

So in reality, I guess I got two 'sub standard' or mediocre knives -- both of which I can use, but neither of which should have left the shop, IMHO. Although, like I said, the first one seems pretty decent now that I put the secondary bevel on it.

I now wish I'd have thought of posting this follow up bit. Just never got around to it.

I like the design. I think others have had good luck with the blades, and so I didn't say anything. And I certainly would order again, but this time I'd ask a few more questions. This guy seems like a decent chap, and I think he'd address any reasonable complaint fairly positively. If you will be satisfied with the remedy, well that's up to each individual I guess. I just let it go, and chalked it up to caveat emptor for next time.

Pretty disappointed because I rarely get to buy a blade. But hey, it is what it is, right?

Judge for yourself on the replacement blade:

Pin and lanyard





Plunge line:







Comparison shot between original and replacement:



Other side pin and lanyard





Uneven grind at tip:







Hard to see, but there's a noticeable 'wobble' on the spine of the blade where the handle meets blade:



Another shot of the steel left sticking beyond the handle - REALLY uncomfortable. I ground it down some. It's a little better now:



Another comparison:



Wonky tip:








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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2014, 11:56:23 AM »
Thanks for posting that KK.  It is hard to believe they sent that stuff out of the shop.

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Re: TripleX Knives Forester
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2014, 05:48:57 PM »

Thanks for posting that KK.  It is hard to believe they sent that stuff out of the shop.
Welcome Stan. As I was posting, it all came back and I realized I'm not that happy with the whole deal. But you how it goes -- he'll not have any repeat customers if this is typical. Sad too, because he seems like a decent guy and I was desperately looking for a new company to champion in my own country.




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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2014, 06:08:41 PM »
I wouldn't show anybody that abomination if I'd made it for myself, let alone try and sell it to someone! >:(
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2014, 06:28:17 PM »
Yikes!
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2014, 06:48:48 PM »
KK thanks for your feedback. Your initial video was one of the ones that prompted me to try the TripleX......I won't hold it against you though  :)

Update: Derrick at Triple X has emailed evening and has certainly stepped up and handled this to my satisfaction with a full refund for the Forrester as one of my options. I know he feels very bad that this knife slipped past them and was shipped out and is taking this issue seriously so that his knives truly live up to what they should be.

My Dad always said to me "everybody falls down once in a while, it is all about how gracefully you get back up" Derrick and TripleX got up very gracefully and made things right by offering me several options.

Thank you Derrick, it is appreciated.
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2014, 07:32:41 PM »
Terrific thread guys. Thank you !

kanukkarhu - what intrigued me about your Forester is the shape of the handle. I have large hands and I seem to be finding knives with handles either shaped like a piece of pipe or which are too small in circumference and length for me. Your knife has what looks like a hand filling grip, but is also more narrow in front for ease of doing fine work.

I appreciate Heirphoto's input and your comments throughout this thread. - - - It seems that guys often take a position and then stick to it 'come Hell or high water' as a matter of pride, or something.  I try to be open minded and adapt to the situation as it evolves.

IMO the Forester looks promising, but there is some major improvement needed on execution. More importantly, someone needs to do a little soul searching about their philosophy of making knives and showing respect to customers. Sending sub-par product with a bad heat treat and suggesting putting on a convex grind or secondary bevel to compensate . . . is simply ludicrous.

I can forgive a little roughness in finish on a blade at this price range, but bad heat treat ain't gonna get 'er done.

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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2014, 07:54:41 PM »
Jed,

I am sure Derrick will be addressing the issues of the grinds and workmanship and seeing how quickly he dealt with my issues I think I would feel comfortable trying another TripleX if he comes out with a new design that strikes my fancy.

I can't speak on the heat treat issue as I have not used my knives yet but I will say that most makers will warn of using a true zero degree scandi on hard woods as chipping or rolling (depending on hardness) is likely. L. T Wright in the USA advertises a zero degree grind but then puts on a micro convex just for this reason as he says too many people damage edges with a true zero grind. With an edge thinning to nothing the slightest sides ways movement or twist would stress the paper thin edge and chip it. On softer items like for food prep or maybe game processing the zero might work out fine though.
I purposely wanted a true zero grind so I could strop to a micro convex to the degree I wanted rather than just have the maker hard buff something on the edge like most high end bushcraft knife makers are doing here in the states. TripleX suggested I do this as well in our initial emails.


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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2014, 07:56:06 PM »
KK thanks for your feedback. Your initial video was one of the ones that prompted me to try the TripleX......I won't hold it against you though  :)

Update: Derrick at Triple X has emailed evening and has certainly stepped up and handled this to my satisfaction with a full refund for the Forrester as one of my options. I know he feels very bad that this knife slipped past them and was shipped out and is taking this issue seriously so that his knives truly live up to what they should be.

My Dad always said to me "everybody falls down once in a while, it is all about how gracefully you get back up" Derrick and TripleX got up very gracefully and made things right by offering me several options.

Thank you Derrick, it is appreciated.
FOR THE RECORD... I told you up there^ he would make it right, didn't I? And I bet you're going to get one nice knife! :thumbsup:

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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2014, 08:05:08 PM »
KK,

Thank you, you did say he would make it right and he did. Still really cool knives and they just feel like workhorses and I am pleased with the outcome.

BTW, really liked how you did your Youtube review. You just had a nice style in how it was done and you should really think about doing more reviews and videos.

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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2014, 08:12:48 PM »
Also for the record, I too got an email from Derrick - albeit probably slightly different in tone. I'd call it, um, maybe an "angry" email. Derrick's friend here sent him some of my posts. Turns out I should have turned the knife back in  - again - and given them the chance to make it right... again.

Well, OK. Sure. I'd be MORE than happy to give them a third try. Read above, waaaayyy above, and see how much I loved this knife (when I thought another was coming).

And if it does come again - and right this time - I'd be really happy and more than willing to post it up, eat my words, and become a fan boy. I'd even be willing (as I was at first) to buy more knives from this guy. Heck, I wanted to...

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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2014, 08:19:16 PM »
KK,

Thank you, you did say he would make it right and he did. Still really cool knives and they just feel like workhorses and I am pleased with the outcome.

BTW, really liked how you did your Youtube review. You just had a nice style in how it was done and you should really think about doing more reviews and videos.

Tony
Hey thanks! That's good of you to say. (I thought I sucked at it...) :shrug:

After all this, I still think the Forester has a future. I really do. Great ergos, excellent size. In fact, everything I said in my review still stands - my experience notwithstanding. And I really think Triple X will be VERY careful to get you a great example.

I wish mine would have worked out.


Hey all,

It's ironic, but I only posted after heirphoto told us he has similar issues. I sat on it for months and months, not wanting to blow this up, thinking it not worth my while to try for a third knife...

Irony. Go figgur. Bites you on the butt every time. :crazy:

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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2014, 08:26:33 PM »
Terrific thread guys. Thank you !

kanukkarhu - what intrigued me about your Forester is the shape of the handle. I have large hands and I seem to be finding knives with handles either shaped like a piece of pipe or which are too small in circumference and length for me. Your knife has what looks like a hand filling grip, but is also more narrow in front for ease of doing fine work.

I appreciate Heirphoto's input and your comments throughout this thread. - - - It seems that guys often take a position and then stick to it 'come Hell or high water' as a matter of pride, or something.  I try to be open minded and adapt to the situation as it evolves.

IMO the Forester looks promising, but there is some major improvement needed on execution. More importantly, someone needs to do a little soul searching about their philosophy of making knives and showing respect to customers. Sending sub-par product with a bad heat treat and suggesting putting on a convex grind or secondary bevel to compensate . . . is simply ludicrous.

I can forgive a little roughness in finish on a blade at this price range, but bad heat treat ain't gonna get 'er done.
Hey Jed, the part italicized is still true. I honestly don't know what happened with mine at the shop - maybe training a new guy, or busy and getting help in for a rush, not inspected by the right guy... I dunno - but I'm 100% certain that Derrick is paying close attention to this and I'd be surprised if you have a problem nowwith this knife if you order one. It is a large man's knife. (A large MAN's knife, not a LARGE MAN's knife... if you follow what I'm saying.)

Also, I agree with you on the secondary bevel thing. I know the jury's still out on that, but I don't have a secondary bevel on my Redneck Woody clone... Not on my thin Moras either. And honestly, my second Forester is zero ground and perfectly fine at wood. Saying that, there are some knives that I've had to put that wee convex on. But I see them as the exception to my rule. But this is, again, my humble opinion.

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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2014, 10:04:26 PM »
One more development in all this. I was contacted by Triple X this evening and offered a full refund, which I have accepted. I think this is a fair and suitable end to the issue. If it comes to pass, I'll let you know...

And also like I said above, if you like the design and order a knife, I bet you'll see extra vigilance on the QC end of things.
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2014, 08:01:23 AM »
Ok, so here's the latest.

Derrick at Triple X knives refunded my money. I will be wrapping up the blades when I get home tonight and sending them first thing tomorrow morning. Done and done.

I generally don't share publicly what people tell me in emails, but I will say that first off, this all ended with an apology from the owner - for the situation as well as his subsequent handling of it. Also, he told me the knife I got was a second. He apologized for that. To be fair, he does admit he's upset I didn't send the second knife back. Of course, my view of that is that it seemed unlikely at the time much would change, and it's not my onus to keep correcting someone's mistakes. It's a point of disagreement perhaps, but by then I wasn't confident then that I'd ever get what I paid for.

All a moot point now.

All in all, despite some glitches, I am fairly satisfied with this resolution, except of course the disappointment and 'rough' treatment in an email. But I guess Derrick's gonna have to wear that himself...

(In other words, there's nothing here for 'pain and suffering' and the disappointment I experienced. But hey, that's life, eh?)

Oh, Derrick has said that I likely helped him get better!

Yay me. 

(And that's my good deed for the day.)

I bet if anyone here wants a knife from triple x, you'll likely get extra special attention. And so you should. And so should have I.

End of story. Carry on.

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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2014, 12:29:11 PM »
while I am really happy that you were given a refund for those knives and that Derrick is probably a good guy the fact remains that he sent out stuff that was not even close to okay.  Derrick is in the wrong business.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »

while I am really happy that you were given a refund for those knives and that Derrick is probably a good guy the fact remains that he sent out stuff that was not even close to okay.  Derrick is in the wrong business.
Thanks for being happy for me getting a refund, Stan.  While I did get my money back, I still never got what I really wanted, did I? Instead I got months of disappointment and in the end, personal disrespect, blame and an an eventual apology.

Personally speaking, I try not to trash anyone's character, online or otherwise, and I'll stick up for a good design when I see one (I'm a knife nut), but honestly giving the money back is the very least I would expect.

You know what's ironic, Stan, in the end, others will benefit from this little incident (and that's EXACTLY why I shared it) but not me. I just get out with the money I put in.

Oh well. :shrug:




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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2014, 03:55:15 PM »
I could clandestinely do a straw-purchase for you, KK.....THEN you'd get the perfect knife you always wanted without the embarrassment involved in trying to re-order one from Derrick again. :doh: :rofl:
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2014, 04:32:21 PM »
I could clandestinely do a straw-purchase for you, KK.....THEN you'd get the perfect knife you always wanted without the embarrassment involved in trying to re-order one from Derrick again. :doh: :rofl:
Thanks Wolfy! I'll keep that in mind!

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