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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by Pete Bog on October 16, 2021, 01:44:30 PM »
the point being missed here is that the american indians were nothing special with regards as to who/what they were or how they were treated by others.  They were guilty of doing to others all the things that so piously  complain were done to them.

I understand that Manny. But, the question remains, how did you get from Well Wishes and laughing emojis to such an angry outburst?


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DIY and Homemade Gear / Re: Small folding backpacking stoves and Altoids tins
« Last post by Pete Bog on October 16, 2021, 01:32:55 PM »
 :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:  Oh! I bow to your superior intellect!  :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :lol: :lol: :lol: you're a funny man Moe.
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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by Mannlicher on October 16, 2021, 12:42:29 PM »
the point being missed here is that the american indians were nothing special with regards as to who/what they were or how they were treated by others.  They were guilty of doing to others all the things that so piously  complain were done to them.
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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by boomer on October 16, 2021, 08:14:05 AM »
the myth of the poor red man is over hyped.   They were no more noble than any other group.  They were focused on rape, pillage, theft and slavery like all other primitive people.  Never even invented the wheel. 
You cannot find a single group of folks living anywhere, that have not been shoved around, had their land 'stolen', been enslaved and abused.  Those same folks have in their turn, been the land stealers,  the abusers, the slavers. 
There is no way to sift back through time and change history.  If one group is guilty and needs to 'pay restitution', then we all need to.   My Irish great grandparents were treated as badly by the British as the indians were.   Land stolen, enslaved, killed in their millions.  No one is expecting the English to pay restitution now.
I still support Columbus Day.   We would not be having this conversation now if he had not sailed over.

History and context arr always relevant. On a technological level the original inhabitants of the continent lived on a stone  age level while the Europeans lived on an a more technologically advanced level. Mayan toys btw used wheels. It was European social concepts however that determined the eventual out come as much as a lack of natural resistance to diseases for which Europeans had some levels of acquired immunity 

Indirectly Citing the Enclosure Acts and the Irish Famine correctly, I believe, makes the point that social concepts are more at fault than we often care to recognize. It was true then and it is true now. Such is our world.

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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by boomer on October 16, 2021, 07:58:19 AM »
Hmmm, how did we get from dancing bananas and laughing heads to an angry dissertation? 

Life's rough.  Without a sense of humor? Oh you poor soul. My sympathies to you.

 Really,  this country and the rest of the world for that matter is under siege by a radical entity bent on "the big reset", new world order, one world government, using racism, economic class division, and destroying the world's economy,  their goal is to rebuild with a ruling class and a slave/peasant worker class dependent on the ruling government (aka the masters),  and you are so ignorant that you ask such a foolish question while speaking down your nose at those members who dare post the truth and resist the yoke placed at their feet.
 IMHO it's you who is soul less and should be begging of their sympathy toward you.

An interesting exchange indeed. Not exactly a rational response but one can admit the emotional content and vitriol are exemplary. Exemplary of what may be another matter though.
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DIY and Homemade Gear / Re: Small folding backpacking stoves and Altoids tins
« Last post by Moe M. on October 16, 2021, 07:07:37 AM »

 While you are searching the net search for what Tang is made up of,  it's loaded with sugar, has manufactured vitamin D in it and the rest is all chemicals,  you're much better drinking a natural tea or brewed coffee. 
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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by Moe M. on October 16, 2021, 06:57:25 AM »
Hmmm, how did we get from dancing bananas and laughing heads to an angry dissertation? 

Life's rough.  Without a sense of humor? Oh you poor soul. My sympathies to you.

 Really,  this country and the rest of the world for that matter is under siege by a radical entity bent on "the big reset", new world order, one world government, using racism, economic class division, and destroying the world's economy,  their goal is to rebuild with a ruling class and a slave/peasant worker class dependent on the ruling government (aka the masters),  and you are so ignorant that you ask such a foolish question while speaking down your nose at those members who dare post the truth and resist the yoke placed at their feet.
 IMHO it's you who is soul less and should be begging of their sympathy toward you. 
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General Discussion / Re: Holiday greetings
« Last post by Pete Bog on October 16, 2021, 03:40:14 AM »
Hmmm, how did we get from dancing bananas and laughing heads to an angry dissertation? 

Life's rough.  Without a sense of humor? Oh you poor soul. My sympathies to you.



 
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DIY and Homemade Gear / Re: Small folding backpacking stoves and Altoids tins
« Last post by Pete Bog on October 15, 2021, 11:40:21 PM »
if you could sneak one of those Reynolds Boil in Bag(s) in there, you'd have it made. With Hot water, you are only limited by your imagination.

searching for "Boil Water in Plastic Bag Over Camp Fire" on youtube  opens up all kinds of ways to kill time around the campfire, and that's never a bad thing.

I like carrying some "Tang" orange drink. Hot Tang. Light weight, tastes good, sugar kick on a cold day. Good stuff.
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DIY and Homemade Gear / Re: Small folding backpacking stoves and Altoids tins
« Last post by wsdstan on October 15, 2021, 03:47:25 PM »
That is neat, and there is room to spare.
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