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Wheel Horse C-100 project
« on: March 05, 2022, 07:08:38 PM »
Hey folks, thought I would share my next wheel horse project.  This tractor popped up for $25 back in the summer and I jumped on it for a future project.  Well the time is now!  Plan is to just get this running good and be a solid user.  It won't look as nice as the 312 I have but can still be a great machine.  Main issue is a bad engine, Kohler 10hp K241s.  So seemed it was ran low of oil and the connecting rod gave due to the heat.  Part of it melted to the crankshaft journal.  It cleaned up nicely though with muriatic acid.  I was careful :)  The the crankshaft, camshaft block all were not damaged.  The cylinder wall did take a small chip but it is below the ring travel line so I'm going to hone it and see what happens.  This was rebuilt as the piston was a .020 over and the rod .010 under.  I don't think the unit had high amount of hours since the rebuild as the carbon build up on the head was not much.  So I'm rolling the dice and replacing with same size piston and rod.  We'll see what happens.  Machine shops around cost too much to make this a worth while budget project.  If this doesn't work I'll wait another engine or maybe do a Harbor Freight predator swap.  We'll see.  But onto some pics for this project:









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Here is the crankshaft out and journal cleaned up!



And block ready to be reassembled.



I'm awaiting a few tools I need to get started on the reassembly.  I'm also doing a valve job while I'm in here.  I'll post some updates as I get to it!
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2022, 04:39:58 AM »
Looking forward to see how it turns out.

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2022, 07:10:12 AM »
Hey folks, thought I would share my next wheel horse project.  This tractor popped up for $25 back in the summer and I jumped on it for a future project.  Well the time is now!  Plan is to just get this running good and be a solid user.  It won't look as nice as the 312 I have but can still be a great machine.  Main issue is a bad engine, Kohler 10hp K241s.  So seemed it was ran low of oil and the connecting rod gave due to the heat.  Part of it melted to the crankshaft journal.  It cleaned up nicely though with muriatic acid.  I was careful :)  The the crankshaft, camshaft block all were not damaged.  The cylinder wall did take a small chip but it is below the ring travel line so I'm going to hone it and see what happens.  This was rebuilt as the piston was a .020 over and the rod .010 under.  I don't think the unit had high amount of hours since the rebuild as the carbon build up on the head was not much.  So I'm rolling the dice and replacing with same size piston and rod.  We'll see what happens.  Machine shops around cost too much to make this a worth while budget project.  If this doesn't work I'll wait another engine or maybe do a Harbor Freight predator swap.  We'll see.  But onto some pics for this project:









not what you want to see!







Here is the crankshaft out and journal cleaned up!



And block ready to be reassembled.



I'm awaiting a few tools I need to get started on the reassembly.  I'm also doing a valve job while I'm in here.  I'll post some updates as I get to it!

 Great project OE,

 My youngest son is into restoring cars and tractors, we had a Craftsman garden tractor with a snow plow and a mower deck, we scrapped the deck and used the tractor/snow plow for the better part of 10 years to clean snow from out parking area and driveway, the frame and plow finally got to the point where it just no longer could be patched or repaired, but the Kolar engine was still running ok.
 My son has a friend who knew of a man who had a 1989 Bolen garden tractor that he bought new and used in his small landscape business, when he retired in the late '90's he stored the tractor in his barn and forgot about it
 It looked to be in pretty good shape, and the engine turned over, but the hoses and tires were all cracked and rotted, and the seat had been chewed up by mice, my son (a professional mechanic) got the engine started, he replaced all the hoses and tires, and also replaced a couple of hydraulic pistons for the power angle plow and rear PTO, the body was in excellent shape and the original paint cleaned up like new, he found a like new fork truck seat that fit right on the tractor without having to modify it, the tractor looks like new.
 Unfortunately the engine blew up and he swapped it with the Kolar engine on the Craftsman, but it too is running rough, so we'll be buying a new engine for it this spring.

 Just a suggestion, if you don't want to repaint the frame and body on your Wheel Horse tractor, think about cleaning and degreasing it (no sanding or priming) then give it a couple of coats of Clear Coat paint like they do with Rat Rods, it would be protected from the elements, and it would look super cool.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2022, 08:02:34 AM »
Thank Moe and that's a good idea on the clear coat.  I was going to for sure wash it down good.  Also may hit with some aerosol oil of some kind.  Old paint seems to come alive with an oil rub down.  We'll see when we get there.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2022, 09:04:21 AM »
I remember the other Wheel Horse you posted awhile back.  They look like good units.  I have a couple of older Snapper 28" mowers that I used to cut grass when we had some.  When Snapper was acquired by another company their quality went south.  My dealer quit selling them and now has retired.  I looked for a Wheel Horse for awhile but never found one for sale.  I will enjoy seeing how this one turns out. 
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2022, 09:14:52 AM »
I remember the other Wheel Horse you posted awhile back.  They look like good units.  I have a couple of older Snapper 28" mowers that I used to cut grass when we had some.  When Snapper was acquired by another company their quality went south.  My dealer quit selling them and now has retired.  I looked for a Wheel Horse for awhile but never found one for sale.  I will enjoy seeing how this one turns out.

Yeah there aren't a lot around here either  Most of the time there aren't any for sale.  It's just something fun I keep an eye out for.  Usually it goes like this where it's not a runner and the seller is reasonable. Other times they think it's rare and want $2,000 or something crazy.  They're fun and easy to work for the most part if you ever come across one.  They have a good following and a dedicated forum. 
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 12:39:58 PM »
 Well parts have come in and we are under way.  Today I had a little time so got the valve lapping done and the cylinder honing as well.  Also set the ring gaps.

The close auto parts stores to me were all out of assembly lube.  So waiting on that to arrive from the jungle site.  Honestly I don't know how parts stores are going to stay in business when they can't keep in stock the simplest of stuff like assembly lube.  They offer to order it of course but you can order it online and get it quicker and cheaper and not have to make the trip again...they're only niche is that they are there and you can go get it now...without that I don't know what they offer....anyways... rant over.

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2022, 03:32:38 PM »
Nice looking work you did. 

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2022, 12:25:03 PM »
You've INSPIRED me. I found another engine for my craftsman. I know I can make one good one from the two.


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New used, may run but will get rebuilt anyway. I'm only putting this tractor back together once....

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2022, 07:05:58 AM »
You've INSPIRED me. I found another engine for my craftsman. I know I can make one good one from the two.

Nice xj!  You should get a thread going on it, or post updates here is fine with me.  So what's the tractor you are putting it on?  Are you doing the rebuild or using a shop?

Latest update for mine I did decide to service the starter for good measure and cleaned it up and greased it.  I need to get graphite powder for the bendix gear though..  But it is much quieter.  Also got the valves installed and clearances set. 



a little tricky getting it back together but not too bad

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2022, 01:29:24 PM »
You do nice work. I will start a new post on it. I plan to go through the whole machine. I know the gear shift lever leaks water into the transaxle. I have to make sure it didn't crack in the freeze. Then I'll do a full tear down, and restore on it and the mower, snowblower, and mold board plow. 1971 Custom 10 XL
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2022, 04:13:15 PM »
Those are stout machines for sure!  Well worth the effort so glad you are up for it.  Looking forward to the project xj!
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2022, 07:28:03 PM »
Cool project.  Well done.

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2022, 09:58:12 AM »
New rod and piston installed!  Starting to put on the other accessories and covers.  Hopefully I am firing this within a week!

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2022, 05:10:09 PM »
This is going great.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2022, 03:31:27 PM »
Well I am pretty close now!  Had to redo a couple wire connectors and decided to clean the switch terminals and wipe it down while tank was off.  The fuel valve and grommet are toast so I'll need to replace that and fuel lines next.  But it's coming together...





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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2022, 04:15:57 AM »
I am enjoying following your project.  Well done.

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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2022, 08:09:32 AM »
I like this too OE, it is a really interesting project and it is nice to see it all come together. 

I don't have your mechanical skills but am in the middle of repairing some issues on one of my kerosene torpedo heaters.  The problems you run into with twenty year old things  is some parts are tough to find.  For instance I need 1/4" fuel line hose to go  from the tank to the burner but the heater uses a very thin walled tubing that is less  diameter than standard fuel line available at the auto parts outlets.  The line runs through a rubber grommet and I guess I could drill the grommet out a bit to allow the automotive fuel line to fit but would like to use the original type.  I found some on the net but am disgusted with the price.  a 21" piece is $20 with shipping.  The other parts are fairly reasonable and even with the hose this will be working again for less than $100 plus ones time. 
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2022, 10:53:57 AM »
OE, I?ve got a retired friend here in town that moved to to 'civilization' after farming his entire life....kinda like me. ;D   One day he picked up a garden tiller that someone had left on the curb for our town's annual cleanup day.  It didn't need much more than a carburetor cleanup, fresh gas, an oil change and new spark plug.  Now, people dump unwanted garden tractors, snowblowers, lawn mowers, garden tillers, etc. by his garden shed all year long.  Most of them are in good shape, other than the usual things I just mentioned.  After rejuvenation, he sells them at bargain-basement prices to eager buyers.  Over a cup of coffee he told me that he made upwards of $3000 profit from his tinkering last year....no checks, only frogskins, so no taxes. 8) 
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2022, 02:25:42 PM »
 Time for addressing the "no muffler" issue on the C-100 project.  Keep in mind my welding skills don't even qualify for amateur status so be gentle if you are a skilled welder.  But didn't want to battle getting off the black pipe that was already on the k241 to put in a double threaded connector so I welded on a 45 degree angle bend so I could use 1" black pipe for a basic muffler.  I don't think it's air tight completely but it was pretty solid from the feel of threading in the pipe and I hitting it a few times.  So it should soot up over time in any areas that aren't sealed completely.

End result is better than no muffler at all.  Straight pipe kohlers 4 feet from your face is less then enjoyable...   







Next up is an electric fuel pump conversion.  Was going to rebuild the original.  It was not working and filled with unholiness not to be imagined.  It literally broke when I attempted to brush it off.  The screw for the little plunger broke off.  So that is the next part and we'll see how she runs...

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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2022, 04:21:15 AM »
I've only done a little bit of brazing, so your welding skills are much better than mine. 

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2022, 04:45:42 AM »
Ace Hardware, and I'm sure many other hardware stores, sell "furnace cement". it comes in a tub or a squeeze tube and will seal any minor leaks you may have in an exhaust pipe. I used it on a cracked header pipe on a big block Chevy. Only applied it once, never had another problem with it leaking.

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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2022, 11:14:47 AM »
Nice looking muffler and nobody knows about the welds except us guys.  Yours are better looking than some I have seen.  Can hardly wait to see how it runs.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2022, 08:17:41 AM »
Well an update on the engine.  It is running but has a slight knock on the low end so this would be the crank journal is out of spec.  I knew this was a risk when I chose not to measure.  I'm just going to run this though till it breaks the rod again.  Could be 5 hours, could be 500.  We'll see.   I'll put a predator engine on or maybe keep an eye out for a 12-16hp engine in the meantime.  The 10hp Kohlers just aren't worth the machine shop charge to bring them to spec.  But the tractor does run and is usable.  A novice probably wouldn't even notice the knock.  It is leaking trans fluid from one of the axle seals so coming up with hub puller will next project.   
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2022, 01:21:00 PM »
Well a little update.  The trans gear box is leaking oil like crazy.  I replaced the axle seal and that helped a lot.  The brake shaft seal is leaking a little too so that one is next.  Did get the axle seal out though and made a homemade hub puller out of a 4 ton bottle jack and a flywheel from a honda gcv160 engine.  It was a scrap engine, drilled matching holes in the flywheel and it came out.  We are inching closer to a solid user.









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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2022, 11:52:43 AM »
Neat hub puller.   

Is the crank knock the same, better, or worse?
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2022, 11:08:24 AM »
Neat hub puller.   

Is the crank knock the same, better, or worse?

About the same.  Haven?t ran it much though since the trans leak was annoying.  It was bad.  But both seals replaced and it seems sealed.  I?ll get get to using it more and see.  It?s not real bad so may run for a while.  Runs fine and revs up and down fine.  We?ll see!
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2022, 09:09:04 PM »
Thanks OE. 

This week has been everything that has an engine but not used since last year won't start.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2022, 08:20:14 PM »
Thanks OE. 

This week has been everything that has an engine but not used since last year won't start.

That?s how it goes?equipment gets angry with you if you don?t let have regular fun. 

Good luck with the repairs.  Mostly carb cleaning and battery maintenance I would assume.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2022, 08:30:29 AM »
All of my motorized equipment (two lawn tractors, power washer, generators, engine powered pumps) are pull starters.  Not a battery in the bunch.  It was, as usual, carb work.  Everything is back to running except the big generator which runs on full choke but dies when moved to normal so it is a clogged main jet likely.  My old two stroke dirt bike started third kick but it was the exception this year.

I have not tried the Mantis tiller yet.  It is a two stroke but, at thirty plus years of age, a bit cranky at times.  I put a new carb and hoses on it last year and it ran okay though so maybe another year.
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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2022, 02:53:46 PM »
I must be lucky then....this week I sold our 1066 IH tractor to a young farmer just starting to farm on his own.  It's been sitting in our shed since I retired 5 years ago.  I figured the batteries were probably shot, but after a few hours on a charger, it cracked right off...I couldn't believe it!
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2022, 09:23:24 PM »
I never talk about batteries.  Every time I do one of them craps out. 
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2022, 10:23:16 AM »
So an update!  Tractor is running pretty good.  I did have an issue with the idler pulley tension tab for activating the clutch.  When coming to a stop and going to shift to another gear, manual trans, it would grind as the drive pulley would still be spinning.  Would have to wait 5-10 seconds for it to stop spinning.  Had to add an extra tab but it did the trick.  Original was welded on so couldn't adjust or remove it, there was enough clearance though to just add another in more forward position.  Now when pressing clutch pedal in it stops the belt instantly, like it should.  So my use plan for this rig is to be a tow/puller logging rig.  Ordered a 2" front hitch receiver.  Pretty handy so now I can use any 2" hitch in the front.  Will plan to add one to the back at some point.



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here is the front hitch receiver with a tow hook in



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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2022, 10:54:19 AM »
Neat tractor OE, thanks for this thread.
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Re: Wheel Horse C-100 project
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2022, 04:13:03 PM »
Looks great, well done. Thanks

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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2022, 04:32:25 AM »
Very cool project. 

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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2022, 09:58:19 PM »
So lucky antique store score today!  Found this red 3 ball hitch for a steal!  Nice addition to the tractor.  It's heavy too, I bet it's 30lbs or more.  Should double as a nice counter balance weight up front.  Nice timing with the front hitch addition! 

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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2022, 10:33:27 AM »
I have always wanted one of those but am too cheap to pony up the $ for a new one.  Never see these at auctions either.
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